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Magic (The Gathering) => Discussion => Topic started by: Fenster on October 05, 2012, 01:32:24 PM

Title: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fenster on October 05, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
{Abrupt decay} goes for 20 usd (rough estimate, 220 sek) at my lgs!
I know its good but wowza! I did not expect that!
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on October 05, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
Great early game. Not so great late game. However it is an instant...i dunno, I'm reserving judgement on this particular rare...lol
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fenster on October 05, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
Im glad because its good against that pesky skeleton cage and that pesky R.I.P
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Rass on October 05, 2012, 01:54:25 PM
A 2 mana cost that cannot be countered and can remove up to a 3 mana cost card. I see value in that
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fenster on October 05, 2012, 02:05:02 PM
Yeah but 20?
I expected it at about 10
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Coffee Vampire on October 05, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
It isn't just good in standard. It's a real hardcore sexbeast of a card fer sure!
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fenster on October 05, 2012, 02:14:28 PM
I guess its that uncounterability :(
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: smokin terry on October 05, 2012, 07:17:53 PM
I'm glad they brought back {smother}. And they made it uncounterable! And not just creatures! Smother was my favorite 2 cmc kill spell. I would like to see it drop to $15 but in all honesty I'm fine with $20.
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Prophylaxis on October 05, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
It will drop. So many people opened it at the prerelease.
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fishsticks123 on October 05, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
The pure reason it is so good is that it can destroy pretty much anything except jtms in modern and legacy.
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Dudecore on October 05, 2012, 11:53:36 PM
{Abrupt Decay} has standard and legacy implication. It is a good card, probably around $5 is right. IMO is really above the curve, and it's difficult to put a price on uncounterable. Legacy and modern actually have better answers, but not many.

The fact that it really only kills small things is a drawback, but it's cheap and efficient removal. The uncounterable portion is almost irrelevant, cheap removal almost basically never gets countered anyway (unless its like turn 1-3)
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 06, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
Lets not forget it can hit flipped cards
Bye bye garruk and huntsmaster
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Fenster on October 06, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
Wow that makes it even more powerful...
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: Willthomjr on October 06, 2012, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: Testset on October 06, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on October 06, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
Lets not forget it can hit flipped cards
Bye bye garruk and huntsmaster
Don't believe that works. It should still use the CMC of the primary side...

Edit: Hmm. From what I'm reading, however, they ARE treated as 0. This makes no sense to me, seeing as it is the same object. The Kamigawa flip cards counted the CMC of the top side.

It seems to me that there is no mana cost shown in order to prevent someone from casting it transformed.
Yeah, ratchet bomb for 0 hits all werewolves when they are flipped. Dreams when I found out = crushed.
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 06, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
Oh yes it works. Lol, just like ratchet bomb.
Title: Re: Holy carp card price
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on October 06, 2012, 04:03:26 PM
What makes it so good is its use in legacy. Most of the best cards in legacy is 3 or less. The fact it can't be {force of will}ed. In modern it stops a lot of the best creatures and equipment. It makes Jund so much better. In standard it stops a lot of the early game. Standard is where it is at its weakest though.