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Title: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 05, 2012, 11:30:07 PM
Seeing that spoilers are coming next week, I'll put up a spoiler section here. :)

I will provide links to the cards. I'll also try to put personal commentary on 'em.

Faithless Looting
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=126059&d=1321954388
I like it. You can throw away useless lands in a burn deck, and then get some gas. Flashback only sweetens the deal.

Japanese Dark Ascension Packaging
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=126965&d=1325819205
Interesting, to say the least. The kanji on there are just prices and dates.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 06, 2012, 01:05:21 AM
Request granted.  8)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 06, 2012, 01:09:42 AM
Thank you. Posted some spoilers!

Faithless Looting
DA Packaging
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 07, 2012, 04:02:57 AM
Cool! Good job!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 12:08:38 AM
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/default.aspx

Cool beans.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: cltrn81 on January 09, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Did you see Increasing Confusion, a blue sorcery from DA?  Hello new mill gem.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 09, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Did you see Increasing Confusion, a blue sorcery from DA?  Hello new mill gem.
It's pretty neat! I love seeing flashback being used this way!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on January 09, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Did you see Increasing Confusion, a blue sorcery from DA?  Hello new mill gem.

I KNOW!!  Wheeeee!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Undying can be really broken right now especially if they print it on stronger cards.

{hex parasite} plus creature with undying :D
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: SpiritedAway on January 09, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Undying can be really broken right now especially if they print it on stronger cards.

{hex parasite} plus creature with undying :D

I'm really excited about it. I hope there's a spirit enchantment that gives all spirits undying.

The card I've seen that is most exciting to me is the blue spirit with flying, about as strong as a {Mind Control} that flips into a enchantment comparable to {Mind Control}. So cool.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
I don't think that spirit will be too useful in standard or limited..
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Undying + Persist!  "I can't die!"
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: SpiritedAway on January 09, 2012, 02:39:12 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
I don't think that spirit will be too useful in standard or limited..

No, but it really doesn't matter though. It's sweet and that's all I care about.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
Oh that's right.. You're the spirit guy lol. If it's a spirit you have to have it :)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on January 09, 2012, 01:59:45 PM


I'm really excited about it. I hope there's a spirit enchantment that gives all spirits undying.


Hmmm, as good as that would be, I think you'd have to be dead to be a spirit.  It doesn't seem to make sense for a spirit to be "undead".  Maybe it's just me.  *shrug*
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
I wonder if they got the idea for the undying keyword from Clive Barker:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Barker%27s_Undying

Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 03:54:47 PM
Well black jester there is a spirit with undying... Strangleroot giest is a spirit with undying.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: JakeyWakey on January 09, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
And it's called "undying" not "undead" so I think spirits will probably be the most likely creatures to boast this new ability. That and zombies. Heck even vamps. I'm just excited for prerelease! I hope there is a strong answer to some of the power decks in this set, all I know is I haven't met a standard deck yet that can beat my wolf ramp best of five, but that new mill card will definately have me shaking.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: JakeyWakey on January 09, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
And it's called "undying" not "undead" so I think spirits will probably be the most likely creatures to boast this new ability. That and zombies. Heck even vamps. I'm just excited for prerelease! I hope there is a strong answer to some of the power decks in this set, all I know is I haven't met a standard deck yet that can beat my wolf ramp best of five, but that new mill card will definately have me shaking.

I'm going to get four copies of increased confusion and run it in my huge mana ramp eldrazi deck. I should be able to completely mill someone turn 6-7 with the right hand :D
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Validan on January 09, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on January 09, 2012, 01:59:45 PM


I'm really excited about it. I hope there's a spirit enchantment that gives all spirits undying.


Hmmm, as good as that would be, I think you'd have to be dead to be a spirit.  It doesn't seem to make sense for a spirit to be "undead".  Maybe it's just me.  *shrug*

Actually the creators wrote in the backstory for Dark Ascension that the spirits that are being either exorcised just arent staying away since the avacynian holy magic they have is dissipating
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Undying + Persist!  "I can't die!"
{Cauldron of Souls}
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 09, 2012, 03:54:47 PM
Well black jester there is a spirit with undying... Strangleroot giest is a spirit with undying.

Guess it is just me then.  Oh well.    :-\

Quote from: JakeyWakey on January 09, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
And it's called "undying" not "undead" so I think spirits will probably be the most likely creatures to boast this new ability. That and zombies. Heck even vamps. I'm just excited for prerelease! I hope there is a strong answer to some of the power decks in this set, all I know is I haven't met a standard deck yet that can beat my wolf ramp best of five, but that new mill card will definately have me shaking.

I realize the ability is called undying and not undead.  But if Spirits are "undying" then does that mean non-Spirits (i.e. the rest of us) are all dying?  Pretty bleak way to see it.  How about "non-dying"?  Less sexy, more accurate.   :D  I still like the ability, though!

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Undying + Persist!  "I can't die!"
{Cauldron of Souls}

ON second thought, I don't think this would work the way I'd want it to.  I don't think it would come back with both a -1/-1 and a +1/+1 (meaning no counters).  You would only apply one replacement effect.  Probably the +1/+1.   ;D

Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 10, 2012, 12:11:37 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127094&d=1326171769

{Increasing Devotion}
{Parallel Lives}, say hello to your best friend!

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127095&d=1326171779

{Altar of the Lost}
This could go into my "Evolving Precons" deck. I'll possibly do a Dark Ascension redux after the set has been settled out.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Klayne889 on January 10, 2012, 12:20:50 AM
Very excited about the new red Werewolf they previewed.  Now if your opponent wants to flip your werewolves they better be ready to take 4 damage!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 10, 2012, 10:35:26 AM
http://www.gamehead.com/article/1603/dark-ascension-preview-drogskol-reaver

{Drogskol Reaver}

This card has some of the worst art I have ever seen. It looks like someone ripped it off at deviant and then tried to fit the box.

Regardless, cool card. Untap with it, you win with 6 life and two cards. That's {Kiss of the Amesha} territory. I would run it in EDH for sure.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 10, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
Pretty sick spirit!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 10, 2012, 01:03:10 PM
{Jar of Eyballs} is up on Twitter. I love it!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 10, 2012, 01:03:10 PM
{Jar of Eyballs} is up on Twitter. I love it!!

Could you post the link?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 10, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 10, 2012, 01:03:10 PM
{Jar of Eyballs} is up on Twitter. I love it!!

Could you post the link?

You got it!

http://t.co/LVy1VBiy
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 10, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
That's pretty sweet
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 10, 2012, 06:55:36 PM
Love the Jar. It reminds me of {Shrine of Piercing Visions}.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 10, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
No one is talking about Ghoultree?

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127117&d=1326222657

Pretty dull, IMO - feels like another version of {Boneyard Wurm}.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 10, 2012, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 10, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
No one is talking about Ghoultree?

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127117&d=1326222657

Pretty dull, IMO - feels like another version of {Boneyard Wurm}.
I feel he's a little over powered, though. Especially if he's combined with {Fresh Meat}/{Phyrexian Revoker} decks I've played against.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 12:02:14 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/177

New Sorin!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 12:08:58 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 12:02:14 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/177

New Sorin!

😱😱😱😱
MUST HAVE!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Cllzzrd on January 11, 2012, 12:47:03 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 12:02:14 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/177

New Sorin!

Wow... That is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 01:42:45 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 12:02:14 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/177

New Sorin!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! I was hoping that was gonna happen!!! I flagged this 2 weeks ago, too! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! This is gonna fit perfectly into sooooo many of my decks, especially the quick sac W/B EDH! Oh man!

New. Favourite. Planeswalker!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 02:22:23 AM
Loyal Cathar!

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/23404_Exclusive_Preview_Loyal_Cathar_Unhallowed_Cathar.html
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 02:42:20 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 02:22:23 AM
Loyal Cathar!

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/23404_Exclusive_Preview_Loyal_Cathar_Unhallowed_Cathar.html
Oh wow! I'm absolutely loving the attention W/B is receiving in this block! I hope it keeps coming! That a cool card, I'd use the hell outta that! Sac/reanimate decks are gonna get a revamp after this block!ðŸ'
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
 !!!WHY IS SORIN WHITE!!!  I'm gonna have to manipulate my manabase to make him fit now!!! Agh well, goodbye {Ancient Grudge}s and {Rootbound Crag}s, hello {Isolated Chapel}! î'î'î' I love him though... God damn W/B CMC!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 11, 2012, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
 !!!WHY IS SORIN WHITE!!!  I'm gonna have to manipulate my manabase to make him fit now!!! Agh well, goodbye {Ancient Grudge}s and {Rootbound Crag}s, hello {Isolated Chapel}! î'î'î' I love him though... God damn W/B CMC!!!

Haha, ive got the same issues with that. Now it looks like I have to splash white into my R/B Vamp deck just so I can play him...
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: cltrn81 on January 11, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
I wonder what the price of the new Sorin is going to tapper off at.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 11, 2012, 01:20:46 PM
Over 9000 pennies! (for 3ish)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
 !!!WHY IS SORIN WHITE!!!  I'm gonna have to manipulate my manabase to make him fit now!!! Agh well, goodbye {Ancient Grudge}s and {Rootbound Crag}s, hello {Isolated Chapel}! î'î'î' I love him though... God damn W/B CMC!!!

Lol because I guess on his home world he's different.. ;) wizards is trying to help w/b get a boost thats all
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Queezle on January 11, 2012, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 02:42:20 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 02:22:23 AM
Loyal Cathar!

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/23404_Exclusive_Preview_Loyal_Cathar_Unhallowed_Cathar.html
Oh wow! I'm absolutely loving the attention W/B is receiving in this block! I hope it keeps coming! That a cool card, I'd use the hell outta that! Sac/reanimate decks are gonna get a revamp after this block!ðŸ'

Touché spike.
I want some whit black cards cause i have a deck that is white black and uses gwyllions. So any white black card makes me happy.
As you said hope it keeps coming
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
âš Incorrectâš

New Sorrin is tha ðŸ'£!!! It's about time W/B gets a boost! Other than B/G (which could change when Kiora Atua finally releases), W/B has been the only combo thats had no love since Ravnica!

If you read the Sorrin prelude write up attached to Prophilaxys' link (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/177), it explains exactly and logically why he's W/B! I think its wicked!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
The preview video for DA.  Do your senses a favor and watch this!

http://youtu.be/sn-mZusg9tA

It blew my mind out the back of my head!

Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
I don't mind the White, it's an easy splash. It just sucks that I have to get a playset if Isolated Chapels, which are now through the roof, wait... 3 Isos, and the R/W! Yeah that'll be easier! Maybe even a 2/2 split, yeah... î,
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
It blew my mind out the back of my head!
HA!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
I don't mind the White, it's an easy splash. It just sucks that I have to get a playset if Isolated Chapels, which are now through the roof, wait... 3 Isos, and the R/W! Yeah that'll be easier! Maybe even a 2/2 split, yeah... î,
🌟ðŸ'€ðŸ"¥ decks are fun though, you'll have to post it when it's Moded! ðŸ'©
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 06:43:10 PM
Most definitely! It's gonna have to wait until Dark Ascension comes out though, I'm gonna need to see the new Vamps and what other cards I can incorporate. î,,
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
I wonder if there'll be a White aligned Vamp now, like Sorrin's faithful Butler or bellboy or something.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
I wonder if there'll be a White aligned Vamp now, like Sorrin's faithful Butler or bellboy or something.

{Sorin's Caddy} - "Here's your 7 iron, sir. Care for a pint o' my blood between holes?" ⛳
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
I wonder if there'll be a White aligned Vamp now, like Sorrin's faithful Butler or bellboy or something.
Have you seen the spoiler for the Dark Ascension Flip-Card? There's another flip vampire named {Markov's Chosen}  that's a 2B CMC, maybe it flips to white?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
So who else likes the newly released card seance? I feel a pretty good u/b spirit deck coming
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
So who else likes the newly released card seance? I feel a pretty good u/b spirit deck coming

Link?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
So who else likes the newly released card seance? I feel a pretty good u/b spirit deck coming

Link?

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127160&stc=1&d=1326328186
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 11, 2012, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
So who else likes the newly released card seance? I feel a pretty good u/b spirit deck coming

Link?

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127160&stc=1&d=1326328186
I see green white decks
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
Lots of haste and 'enters the battlefield' effects. Ghost Titans!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
Lots of haste and 'enters the battlefield' effects. Ghost Titans!
My thoughts exactly!!! {Seance} + {Parallel Lives} + {Sundial of the Infinite} î,,‡
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Validan on January 11, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
I'm definitely holding on to my {parallel lives}!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Is it just me or is anyone else living for the new cards they release everyday? I mean I'm getting up in the morning and the first thing I do is check the spoiler sites.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 11, 2012, 10:19:14 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 11, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Is it just me or is anyone else living for the new cards they release everyday? I mean I'm getting up in the morning and the first thing I do is check the spoiler sites.
EVERY 9:00, I'm on the Wizards site.

Also, few more spoilers.. I'll get 'em up soon.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 10:53:28 PM
Yes, I love spoiler season! It's so exciting! 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 11, 2012, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 11, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
Lots of haste and 'enters the battlefield' effects. Ghost Titans!
My thoughts exactly!!! {Seance} + {Parallel Lives} + {Sundial of the Infinite} î,,‡
/nod
That's what I was thinking
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
{Havengul Lich}

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/177

I am at a loss....(for once)

I'll come back when I've picked up my jaw.   ;D
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 12, 2012, 12:32:35 AM
Wow nice
I think I am gonna have to make a white and green {tree of redemption} plus this
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5TyCJKfUnt8/Twp2SkmxNLI/AAAAAAAADi4/EoAdoQxgzao/s1600/8ns11c2rq5_en.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:55:49 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
{Havengul Lich}

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/177

I am at a loss....(for once)

I'll come back when I've picked up my jaw.   ;D

Holy snap!  Cast any creature from ANY graveyard!!!  *faints* 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 12, 2012, 01:07:20 AM
That's a dirty card I can see it being banned
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
Check it!!! New wolf/werewolf lord!

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxo58vPI5o1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

Translation:

Everwolf
Creature - Wolf
Intimidate
Other Wolf and Werewolf creatures you control get +1/+1.
Werewolves you control can’t transform.
2/2

Not a R/G fan, but cool anyway. Not sure about the draw back.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:03:04 AM
{Llanowar Elves} not to appear in M13? Another new DFC:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmv3lr1oY1qhxag7o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1326438142&Signature=g4uxbDN1BfJu2ZpzAF1yNZSfu8A%3D
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
Another Dragon in Dark Acension:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcuwZDHA1qhxag7o7_400.jpg

I know MtG loves it's Dragon's but I dont see how they fit into the Innistrad tropes. Dragons are more a Oriental Ye Olde England/Roman thing aren't they?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:09:50 AM
Cantrip for Flashback:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcuwZDHA1qhxag7o8_400.jpg

Meh ... anyone agree?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:11:27 AM
{Olivia Voldaren}'s best mate:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcq10NZz1qgkkm3.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 12, 2012, 02:34:06 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
Another Dragon in Dark Acension:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcuwZDHA1qhxag7o7_400.jpg

I know MtG loves it's Dragon's but I dont see how they fit into the Innistrad tropes. Dragons are more a Oriental Ye Olde England/Roman thing aren't they?

I hate all of the janky mythic dragons wizards are printing. I mean, we all know that dragons help sell, but could you at least make them Constructed Playable?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:49:46 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
I wonder if there'll be a White aligned Vamp now, like Sorrin's faithful Butler or bellboy or something.
Have you seen the spoiler for the Dark Ascension Flip-Card? There's another flip vampire named {Markov's Chosen}  that's a 2B CMC, maybe it flips to white?
Nope I have not, got a link?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: cltrn81 on January 12, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
The new Sorin is going as high as $260 on eBay right now.......I think I will wait for the rush to die down.  I did pre-order a play set of all commons/uncommons for $32 after shipping.....thanks Proph.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:09:50 AM
Cantrip for Flashback:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcuwZDHA1qhxag7o8_400.jpg

Meh ... anyone agree?

Not this jester!  Nope!  This tugs at my Johnny heartstrings.  :')

{Secrets of the Dead} + {Havengul Lich} =  ;D

Also, it needs to go in my Dead of Knight deck:

http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php/topic,484.msg2259.html#msg2259

I also see this being a star in {Burning Vengeance} decks.  (Obviously)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 12, 2012, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 12, 2012, 02:34:06 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
Another Dragon in Dark Acension:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmcuwZDHA1qhxag7o7_400.jpg

I know MtG loves it's Dragon's but I dont see how they fit into the Innistrad tropes. Dragons are more a Oriental Ye Olde England/Roman thing aren't they?

I hate all of the janky mythic dragons wizards are printing. I mean, we all know that dragons help sell, but could you at least make them Constructed Playable?

They are always trying to make cards for certain parts of the Magic population.  Dragons like these are there for tabletop Timmies, so they don't have to necessarily satisfy the Spike constructed crowd.  IMHO
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 12, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
I'm really upset wizards took away the booster draft for prerealse of dka.. Now I have to spend 60 bucks for 6 dka AND 6 innistrad packs... Why wizards why?? :'(
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 12, 2012, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 12, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
I'm really upset wizards took away the booster draft for prerealse of dka.. Now I have to spend 60 bucks for 6 dka AND 6 innistrad packs... Why wizards why?? :'(
Wait.... What??? î,,‡
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 12, 2012, 09:50:30 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:49:46 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 11, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 11, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
I wonder if there'll be a White aligned Vamp now, like Sorrin's faithful Butler or bellboy or something.
Have you seen the spoiler for the Dark Ascension Flip-Card? There's another flip vampire named {Markov's Chosen}  that's a 2B CMC, maybe it flips to white?
Nope I have not, got a link?
Here you go bro! http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dka/ssepsalaz5_en.jpg
(Not entirely sure how to post links)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 12, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
Yeah exactly what I said :( but I would check with your local shop and see how they're gonna run the prerelease
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 12, 2012, 09:51:50 PM
Sweet  It worked.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:44:43 AM
Two faced old lady:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq45e7R8D1r44hkn.png
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:48:14 AM
R/G DFC BAMF:

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq11uCrnw1qj0h2oo1_500.png
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
The card I was looking forward to:

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq11azhxj1qjhqlso1_500.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:50:23 AM
Clumsy Werewolf:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq0xkpJST1qjhqlso1_250.png

http://www.google.com.au/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=au&client=safari&q=werewolf%20ramsacker&sa=N#i=2
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:51:15 AM
The newest addition to the Token list:

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq0o4IkPk1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:52:34 AM
Don't make him angry, you wont like him when he's angry:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxq0iq53h41qgk8hoo1_250.jpg

http://www.google.com.au/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=au&client=safari&q=wolfbitten%20captive&sa=N#i=5
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:54:26 AM
Not a card but an artwork revealed. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, the She-Knight we've been seeing in flavour texts.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpwaiYCNU1qd0x3to1_500.jpg

Edit: Here she is, {Elite Vanguard}s MUCH cooler and tougher big sister: http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxp5dv60Fx1r68zaeo1_400.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Creature spawn decks are now gonna get busy with control!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpnk00oeP1r7gedro1_400.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 13, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Creature spawn decks are now gonna get busy with control!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpnk00oeP1r7gedro1_400.jpg
I have a personal grudge against that card.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 13, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Creature spawn decks are now gonna get busy with control!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpnk00oeP1r7gedro1_400.jpg
I have a personal grudge against that card.
HAHA!!! How come!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
Red wolves run ... really hard:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxqr998cuK1qhxag7o1_400.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
Check it!!! New wolf/werewolf lord!

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxo58vPI5o1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

Translation:

Everwolf
Creature - Wolf
Intimidate
Other Wolf and Werewolf creatures you control get +1/+1.
Werewolves you control can’t transform.
2/2

Not a R/G fan, but cool anyway. Not sure about the draw back.

Correction:  Non-human Werewolves can't transform.  All upside!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 03:52:57 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 12, 2012, 02:00:10 AM
Check it!!! New wolf/werewolf lord!

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxo58vPI5o1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

Translation:

Everwolf
Creature - Wolf
Intimidate
Other Wolf and Werewolf creatures you control get +1/+1.
Werewolves you control can’t transform.
2/2

Not a R/G fan, but cool anyway. Not sure about the draw back.

Correction:  Non-human Werewolves can't transform.  All upside!
Oh cool. Yeah the first release I found online was the posted image, I couldn't find an English version ANYWHERE! They're everywhere now, cheers. ðŸ'
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 13, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
I see an undying {pestilence} deck in the near future
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 13, 2012, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 13, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 13, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Creature spawn decks are now gonna get busy with control!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxpnk00oeP1r7gedro1_400.jpg
I have a personal grudge against that card.
HAHA!!! How come!

It's just not fun. First of all, it's a repeatable stealing effect, which isn't fun for your opponent. It only works if you control more creatures, which usually means you'll be winning already. If your opponent has more creatures then you, then you're grossly overpaying for a 1/1.

tl;dr: It's not fun.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 13, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
Yea but expensive casting cost and easy to kill
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
*someone didn't read my Daily Combo. 😉*

it's a puzzle piece.  Players like me take one look at it and say "I need to figure out how to abuse that card!"
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:29:57 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
*someone didn't read my Daily Combo. 😉*

it's a puzzle piece.  Players like me take one look at it and say "I need to figure out how to abuse that card!"

I just hate repeated stealing. It's a griefer card. Fun for you, not fun for opponents.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127212&stc=1&d=1326431083

More {Praetor's Grasp} cards! Yay!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127212&stc=1&d=1326431083

More {Praetor's Grasp} cards! Yay!
she's already been posted mate, but she's pretty wicked, huh?! Im heaps keen for her!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 14, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127212&stc=1&d=1326431083

More {Praetor's Grasp} cards! Yay!
she's already been posted mate, but she's pretty wicked, huh?! Im heaps keen for her!
She's the rare for one of the intro decks
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 14, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127212&stc=1&d=1326431083

More {Praetor's Grasp} cards! Yay!
she's already been posted mate, but she's pretty wicked, huh?! Im heaps keen for her!
Yeah, she's pretty cool, I just don't know if she works in mg deck =/
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127171&stc=1&d=1326344441

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben

Eat that, control! Puresteel will love this.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 14, 2012, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 01:29:57 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 13, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
*someone didn't read my Daily Combo. 😉*

it's a puzzle piece.  Players like me take one look at it and say "I need to figure out how to abuse that card!"

I just hate repeated stealing. It's a griefer card. Fun for you, not fun for opponents.
I agree that this has grieffing potential, but it's pretty conditional. It'll take some effort to be able to steal a Titan. Besides, I don't see this living very long on our table. ðŸ'€
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 05:35:53 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127171&stc=1&d=1326344441

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben

Eat that, control! Puresteel will love this.
This ones already up too, brutha. 😌
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 06:33:25 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 05:35:53 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127171&stc=1&d=1326344441

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben

Eat that, control! Puresteel will love this.
This ones already up too, brutha. 😌

I know; I'm just bringing discussion to the thread.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
Just heard word on a thread in Wizards Community (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28841947/01162011_Feature:_Preview_Article:_Mikaeus,_the_Unhallowed) of an article that will go live on Monday morning that states a new card called {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}!!! Uh oh!

Article alleged to appear here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 14, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
Just heard word on a thread in Wizards Community (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28841947/01162011_Feature:_Preview_Article:_Mikaeus,_the_Unhallowed) of an article that will go live on Monday morning that states a new card called {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}!!! Uh oh!

Article alleged to appear here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178

I love this.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 14, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
I'm really hoping that the R/U and u/G planeswalkers from DotP make an appearance in DA.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 15, 2012, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 14, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
I'm really hoping that the R/U and u/G planeswalkers from DotP make an appearance in DA.
I think it's Dack Fayden.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 15, 2012, 01:03:10 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127291&d=1326605047

I love this!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 15, 2012, 01:49:19 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 14, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
I'm really hoping that the R/U and u/G planeswalkers from DotP make an appearance in DA.
I hope so too, or at least in Avacyn Restored. {Hinterland Harbour} and {Sulfur Falls} is promising ... but I can't see them making sense of a Merfolk on Innistrad. ðŸ˜'

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 15, 2012, 01:03:10 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127291&d=1326605047

I love this!
that is VERY cool!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 15, 2012, 01:51:45 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 15, 2012, 01:03:10 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127291&d=1326605047

I love this!
Ditto!  I'll take 4 pleze!ðŸ'
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2012, 02:03:32 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
Just heard word on a thread in Wizards Community (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28841947/01162011_Feature:_Preview_Article:_Mikaeus,_the_Unhallowed) of an article that will go live on Monday morning that states a new card called {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}!!! Uh oh!

Article alleged to appear here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178
I'm about 95% positive he's a Zombie lord, check out {Thraben Doomsayer}'s Flavor text speaking of "The Unhallowed", which I'm pretty sure refers to zombies!
http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Thraben-Doomsayer-Dark-Ascension-Spoiler.jpg
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 15, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
I could always use an extra zombie lord or two.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 15, 2012, 02:19:35 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2012, 02:03:32 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 14, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
Just heard word on a thread in Wizards Community (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28841947/01162011_Feature:_Preview_Article:_Mikaeus,_the_Unhallowed) of an article that will go live on Monday morning that states a new card called {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}!!! Uh oh!

Article alleged to appear here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178
I'm about 95% positive he's a Zombie lord, check out {Thraben Doomsayer}'s Flavor text speaking of "The Unhallowed", which I'm pretty sure refers to zombies!
http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Thraben-Doomsayer-Dark-Ascension-Spoiler.jpg
Good pick.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 12:28:43 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178

Epic! Getting my EDH foil right now.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 12:28:43 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178

Epic! Getting my EDH foil right now.
I picked it! For those impatient in reading a good piece of flavour:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxvl2fdJo21qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

I present to you {Mikaeus, The Unhallowed}!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:37:02 AM
The new Undying booster

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxvlcjmv0o1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

{Flayer of the Hatebound}
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:40:10 AM
So I found this on MtGSalvation, not 100% whether its real or not:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuy48oKPZ1qjok2oo1_500.jpg

But if it is, {Falkenrath EMbermage} is gonna turn heads.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 16, 2012, 12:45:01 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:37:02 AM
The new Undying booster

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxvlcjmv0o1qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

{Flayer of the Hatebound}
YeeeHAW!!!  I SO want to break this card in two!   ;D
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 01:37:54 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:40:10 AM
So I found this on MtGSalvation, not 100% whether its real or not:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuy48oKPZ1qjok2oo1_500.jpg

But if it is, {Falkenrath EMbermage} is gonna turn heads.

Are you on there? My username is Prophylaxis on there.

I don't think it's real. I hope it isn't. That would be way too OP. î,,
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 01:55:05 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 01:37:54 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:40:10 AM
So I found this on MtGSalvation, not 100% whether its real or not:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuy48oKPZ1qjok2oo1_500.jpg

But if it is, {Falkenrath EMbermage} is gonna turn heads.

Are you on there? My username is Prophylaxis on there.

I don't think it's real. I hope it isn't. That would be way too OP. î,,
I do not have an account but go there all the time to read stuff. I don't really have the journalistic ability Leo contribute to it.😌
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:40:10 AM
So I found this on MtGSalvation, not 100% whether its real or not:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxuy48oKPZ1qjok2oo1_500.jpg

But if it is, {Falkenrath EMbermage} is gonna turn heads.
î,,‡î,,‡îŒ·îŒ·îŒ·îŒ·....

I HOPE IT'S REAL!!! AHH NOW THAT IS SOME VAMPIRE POWER!!! YESSSS!!! î€'
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 03:57:18 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 16, 2012, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 12:28:43 AM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178

Epic! Getting my EDH foil right now.
I picked it! For those impatient in reading a good piece of flavour:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxvl2fdJo21qgk8hoo1_400.jpg

I present to you {Mikaeus, The Unhallowed}!
Super sick!!! So glad I decided to make a Zombie deck!!! I don't know where he fits but I will make room!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
I want to see this "Gisa" turned into a card. The "Ghoulcaller" ({Ghoulcaller's Chant}) sounds like an epic Zombie Lord!!! The brother makes Skaabs, I prefer Black Zombies î,,


{Gisa, The Ghoulcaller}??? Haha wishful thinking...
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 04:32:16 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
I want to see this "Gisa" turned into a card. The "Ghoulcaller" ({Ghoulcaller's Chant}) sounds like an epic Zombie Lord!!! The brother makes Skaabs, I prefer Black Zombies î,,


{Gisa, The Ghoulcaller}??? Haha wishful thinking...
I love Innistrad's flavor.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:41:47 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 04:32:16 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
I want to see this "Gisa" turned into a card. The "Ghoulcaller" ({Ghoulcaller's Chant}) sounds like an epic Zombie Lord!!! The brother makes Skaabs, I prefer Black Zombies î,,


{Gisa, The Ghoulcaller}??? Haha wishful thinking...
I love Innistrad's flavor.
Ditto 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 01:26:17 PM
Hey guys, check this baby out!!!
{Vault of the Archangel}!!!!

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/images/120116-vota.jpg

{Bloodline Keeper}, make me some {Vampire Nighthawk}s will ya?


Holy crap this card is sick! I'm expecting to see a whole set of Enemy-Dual Effect Lands just like {Moorland Haunt}, {Gavony Township}, {Stensia Bloodhall} etc. from Innistrad.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 16, 2012, 01:34:01 PM
So this was the cycle MaRo was talking about..

So sick.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
{Grafdigger's Cage}
Wait, wha?  ???  Who's casting cards from their library... /forebode 😱
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 01:18:26 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
{Grafdigger's Cage}
Wait, wha?  ???  Who's casting cards from their library... /forebode 😱
There was this rare in Coldsnap that did it. î,
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Greg54js on January 17, 2012, 05:43:46 AM
What does cast from your library mean? I was really confused about it when I read the cage..
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 17, 2012, 05:43:46 AM
What does cast from your library mean? I was really confused about it when I read the cage..
While you're searching your library, you can pay a mana cost to put a creature from the library onto the battlefield.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 17, 2012, 05:43:46 AM
What does cast from your library mean? I was really confused about it when I read the cage..
Either it's a VERY narrow silver bullet against {Panglacial Wurm} and {Future Sight} or it's a hint of something to come.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on January 17, 2012, 05:43:46 AM
What does cast from your library mean? I was really confused about it when I read the cage..
While you're searching your library, you can pay a mana cost to put a creature from the library onto the battlefield.
Well, only for one creature in particular.  ;)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 11:32:36 AM
{Green Sun's Zenith}?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Undying + Persist!  "I can't die!"
{Cauldron of Souls}

ON second thought, I don't think this would work the way I'd want it to.  I don't think it would come back with both a -1/-1 and a +1/+1 (meaning no counters).  You would only apply one replacement effect.  Probably the +1/+1.   ;D
On third thought, it does work, just not the way I thought.

Both undying and persist will check to see if the creature had a counter.  Both trigger, if it had a -1/-1 counter on it, undying will bring it back, if it had a +1/+1, persist will bring it back!!

Mikaeus just got even better!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 17, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 09, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Undying + Persist!  "I can't die!"
{Cauldron of Souls}

ON second thought, I don't think this would work the way I'd want it to.  I don't think it would come back with both a -1/-1 and a +1/+1 (meaning no counters).  You would only apply one replacement effect.  Probably the +1/+1.   ;D
On third thought, it does work, just not the way I thought.

Both undying and persist will check to see if the creature had a counter.  If both trigger, if it had a -1/-1 counter on it, undying will bring it back, if it had a +1/+1, persist will bring it back!!

Mikaeus just got even better!


Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: JakeyWakey on January 17, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 11:32:36 AM
{Green Sun's Zenith}?
Yea, I don't like this card, way to go WotC for shutting down green sun, {birthing pod} {moldgraf monstrosity} flashback, grave born, undying, persist...etc.!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Rass on January 17, 2012, 06:06:44 PM
Haven't really looked at this topic for a few pages back, but seen some new cards on eBay that I didn't see links for.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 17, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
I want to see this "Gisa" turned into a card. The "Ghoulcaller" ({Ghoulcaller's Chant}) sounds like an epic Zombie Lord!!! The brother makes Skaabs, I prefer Black Zombies î,,


{Gisa, The Ghoulcaller}??? Haha wishful thinking...
If you have a look at the article Proph posted (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178) specifically at the pics next to each letter, you'll that her brother, Geralf, is the dude from {Evil Twin}! So maye that's how he topped *SPOILER ALERT* Mikaeus, shapeshifting. Gisa herself looks sexily evil too, she has an image so it stands to reason she'll have a card...

And what's this {Grafdigger's Cage}?!?! I've looked back over the forum and can't find the link? ... I feel so left out. Lol

P.S. that land you posted is AMAZING!!! Go W/B!!!!!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 17, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
So does that cage make the snapcaster Mage useless?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 11:48:46 PM
Quote from: Alaskanice on January 17, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
So does that cage make the snapcaster Mage useless?
Yup.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 18, 2012, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 17, 2012, 11:48:46 PM
Quote from: Alaskanice on January 17, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
So does that cage make the snapcaster Mage useless?
Yup.
😪
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: SpiritedAway on January 18, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
New spirit creature token card with flashback!!!!!!!! Go check it out!

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/boab/178
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 18, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on January 17, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
I want to see this "Gisa" turned into a card. The "Ghoulcaller" ({Ghoulcaller's Chant}) sounds like an epic Zombie Lord!!! The brother makes Skaabs, I prefer Black Zombies î,,


{Gisa, The Ghoulcaller}??? Haha wishful thinking...
If you have a look at the article Proph posted (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/178) specifically at the pics next to each letter, you'll that her brother, Geralf, is the dude from {Evil Twin}! So maye that's how he topped *SPOILER ALERT* Mikaeus, shapeshifting. Gisa herself looks sexily evil too, she has an image so it stands to reason she'll have a card...

And what's this {Grafdigger's Cage}?!?! I've looked back over the forum and can't find the link? ... I feel so left out. Lol

P.S. that land you posted is AMAZING!!! Go W/B!!!!!
Here ya go Spike!!! {Grafdigger's Cage} ---> http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Grafdiggers-Cage-Dark-Ascension-Spoiler.jpg

Okay, for starters, this card is so ridiculously broken!!! And at a rare, I am very curious as to the odds of pulling it. î,

Legacy and Vintage players want this, it SINGLEHANDEDLY shuts down Dredge, a very popular archetype. I can see this getting banned in a couple formats, WoTC R&D is off their rocker printing a card like this as a normal rare, and I mean wth?!?!? It only costs ONE!!! 1, UNO, holy crap!!! Either way, I love this card, it goes above and beyond what {Nigil Spellbomb} is being used for, shuts down reanimator, dredgeî€', any form of Flashback, I.E. {Snapcaster Mage}, and all the decks revolved around him, it makes {Birthing Pod} useless. I really don't think people understand how crazy this card is. Then again, maybe they do, it is beyond OP. And I like it î,, That's coming from someone who's trying to make mono-black Zombie/Reanimator î,,›
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 18, 2012, 01:59:44 AM
Whoa there, InfinitiveDivinity!  It's good, but not THAT good:

It stops people from casting spells in a gy, but not abilities.  Dredge can still dredge.  {Zombify}, {Reanimate} and its ilk aren't casting the creature from your 'yard, they're just putting them directly onto the battlefield.  the Cage can't stop that.  :(

Same goes for {Birthing Pod}.  No cards are being cast from the library, just put directly into play.  Only something like {Stiffle} could stop that.

You're right that it is an absolute flashback hoser though.  This card is not OP, just P.  So go ahead and make your zombie deck, just have a sideboard answer to swap out your {Gravecrawler}s, {Skaab Ruinator}s, and {Snapcaster Mage}s, cause this card is their sliver bullet.  (Yeah, I'm lovin' the "silver bullet" reference in a block with werewolves.  XD)

Edit:  I am a stoopid-hed!  Don't listen to me.  I only read half the card.  I'll try not to let it happen again, but I make no promises. ;)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 18, 2012, 02:16:50 AM
Some new spoilers to discuss:

Markov Blademaster

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127406&d=1326868922

Stromkirk Captain

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127402&d=1326863426

Thought Scour

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127399&stc=1&d=1326863106

Helvault

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127396&d=1326862867

Chant of the Skifsang 2U
Enchantment - Aura (C)
Enchanted creature gets -13/-0.

Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Harmon1c on January 18, 2012, 02:30:15 AM
I love the card art on Blademaster, and the she's holding the {Tepanation Blade}. 😏
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 18, 2012, 02:46:45 AM
Quote from: Harmon1c on January 18, 2012, 02:30:15 AM
I love the card art on Blademaster, and the she's holding the {Tepanation Blade}. 😏
It's saying "don't forget to equip me with this ridiculous sword!". ðŸ'ª
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 18, 2012, 03:04:10 AM
{Thought Scour}! Wow, all that for 1ðŸ'¦?! Whoa there sport!
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 19, 2012, 03:28:20 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 18, 2012, 02:16:50 AM
Some new spoilers to discuss:

Markov Blademaster

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127406&d=1326868922

Stromkirk Captain

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127402&d=1326863426

Thought Scour

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127399&stc=1&d=1326863106

Helvault

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127396&d=1326862867

Chant of the Skifsang 2U
Enchantment - Aura (C)
Enchanted creature gets -13/-0.

And here I thought my vamp deck couldn't get any better! My friends are already telling me that my deck is too strong, can't wait to add these new guys to it.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Piotr on January 19, 2012, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 18, 2012, 01:59:44 AM
Whoa there, InfinitiveDivinity!  It's good, but not THAT good:

It stops people from casting spells in a gy, but not abilities.  Dredge can still dredge.  {Zombify}, {Reanimate} and its ilk aren't casting the creature from your 'yard, they're just putting them directly onto the battlefield.  the Cage can't stop that.  :(

Same goes for {Birthing Pod}.  No cards are being cast from the library, just put directly into play.  Only something like {Stiffle} could stop that.

I thought it was saying: Creatures can't enter the battlefield from graveyard/library... Nothing about casting, huh? Isn't putting onto the battlefield the same as entering it?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 19, 2012, 10:17:51 AM
Quote from: Piotr on January 19, 2012, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 18, 2012, 01:59:44 AM
Whoa there, InfinitiveDivinity!  It's good, but not THAT good:

It stops people from casting spells in a gy, but not abilities.  Dredge can still dredge.  {Zombify}, {Reanimate} and its ilk aren't casting the creature from your 'yard, they're just putting them directly onto the battlefield.  the Cage can't stop that.  :(

Same goes for {Birthing Pod}.  No cards are being cast from the library, just put directly into play.  Only something like {Stiffle} could stop that.

I thought it was saying: Creatures can't enter the battlefield from graveyard/library... Nothing about casting, huh? Isn't putting onto the battlefield the same as entering it?


Correction:  One of my minions got ahold of my keyboard and put a ridiculously stupid post that made it look like I didn't really read the card.  I'll deal with him later.   >:(

DON'T LISTEN TO A THING I'VE SAID!!  THIS THING IS BUSTED!!  GET 40 OF THESE!

Sorry InfinitiveDivinity, you had it right all along.  :-[
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 19, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
{grafdigger's cage} is currently going for $10 presale, how do you think its cost will change after it comes out?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Alaskanice on January 19, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
And how soon will it be banned from play?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 19, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
There is one thing about the {Grafdigger's Cage}, it shuts down all players alike, so I see it mostly sideboarded in WW, RWD, Bluesteel, and Wolf Run, type decks.  I also think it needed to be so cheap because of the speed of many reanimator decks.  Legacy can be dropping bombs on turn one pretty easily. 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 20, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
î,
Either way this thing is a BOMB!!! I can see it being worth quite a lot in the near future. 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 20, 2012, 01:56:55 PM
Oh, and I absolutely LOVE {Stromkirk Captain}, he's a beastly replacement for {Vampiric Fury}
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Validan on January 20, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Was anyone else disappointed with the article recently an new card? I was hoping for another awesome card to be revealed...
The card is {skirsdag flayer}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/178
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 20, 2012, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Validan on January 20, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Was anyone else disappointed with the article recently an new card? I was hoping for another awesome card to be revealed...
The card is {skirsdag flayer}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/178

My thoughts: W/B Humans. ;)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 20, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Validan on January 20, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Was anyone else disappointed with the article recently an new card? I was hoping for another awesome card to be revealed...
The card is {skirsdag flayer}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/178
File that one under " Not For Me".  ðŸ'¤
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 20, 2012, 02:40:16 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127466&d=1326965242
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: JakeyWakey on January 21, 2012, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: Validan on January 20, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Was anyone else disappointed with the article recently an new card? I was hoping for another awesome card to be revealed...
The card is {skirsdag flayer}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/178
I wanna make a b/w token deck limited to innastrad block, I can see this being useful as it stays on the battlefield till it gets blown up, and with all the human token producers DA has if you have the 3b and a human, your opponent has the fear of losing his most valuable creature, however, Im not sure if I'll use the flayer yet.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Validan on January 21, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
I already build the a bw token using the one online as a guideline lol I liked the idea and the lack of high $ cost
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 23, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
Entire set spoiled!

One thing: That white mythic is really bad.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 23, 2012, 12:47:11 AM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 23, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
Entire set spoiled!

One thing: That white mythic is really bad.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/darkascension/cig#

You mean, bad as in good?  Didn't think so.   ;)
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 23, 2012, 01:40:19 AM
Bleh, Avacyn Restored better be sick. I don't know if I like this set. It's almost just filler for the arrival of the REAL expansion Avacyn Restored. There's cool flavor and some decent cards, but for the most part, meh. Maybe it'll grow on me...
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: SpiritedAway on January 23, 2012, 02:12:51 AM
DROGSKOL CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All my (other) Spirits are hex proof. He's like a {Lord of The Unreal}. Pumped.

This expansion rules man. Just because the whole mirrodin block is stupidly overpowered, doesn't mean there's anything is wrong with this one.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Validan on January 24, 2012, 08:14:17 AM
Idk I definitely like the lords and a couple of cards in the set but I also feel like the set isn't as good as I had hoped. I'm definitely going to play I think I just kind of wish there were more cards you know?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 08:36:40 AM
Well Avacyn Restored is a full set (like 300-something cards), so it'll be like Rise of the Eldrazi. This is technically Worldwake, a sick PW, some other sick cards, a ton o mediocracy, and some cool lands. Gotta admit, Worldwake has it beat on the lands though, I was expecting a full set of enemy-dual activated effect lands. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the cards, and the flavor is cool, but it's really just filler. I bet you anything Avacyn Restored is going to be a pretty sick set, due to the fact that they're printing all of the good cards that they decided to leave out of this set. We'll see, I'm still playing, but meh.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 11:11:42 AM
I originally said that I thought DA was going to be an enemy-color-matters set (a la Apocalypse), but as the little brother of the allied-color tribes in Innistrad, it wouldn't have worked.  But I'm calling for it in Avacyn Restored!  Sort of a "can't we all get along" vibe.  As a large set, I think we'll see two enemy-colored 'Walkers, (U/G and R/U).

As a small set, I'm pretty happy with what I've seen.  True, not every card was made for me, but there are enough.

(BTW I'll take any {Elbrus, the Binding Blade}s you may have kickin' around.  ;) )
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 04:26:15 PM
Does it work for EDH?!?!?
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 04:26:15 PM
Does it work for EDH?!?!?

Does what work?  ??? The Binding blade?  ??? Why wouldn't it?  ??? Do I have any more rhetorical questions?  ???
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 24, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 11:11:42 AM
I originally said that I thought DA was going to be an enemy-color-matters set (a la Apocalypse), but as the little brother of the allied-color tribes in Innistrad, it wouldn't have worked.  But I'm calling for it in Avacyn Restored!  Sort of a "can't we all get along" vibe.  As a large set, I think we'll see two enemy-colored 'Walkers, (U/G and R/U).

As a small set, I'm pretty happy with what I've seen.  True, not every card was made for me, but there are enough.

(BTW I'll take any {Elbrus, the Binding Blade}s you may have kickin' around.  ;) )
I concur wholeheartedly! Every set can't be made to suit every player! I adore this set as the Esper fan in me gets a good lashing and the Vorthos in me has a lot to drool over! And the flavour of the set 😱 theres just so much!

I am also quite excited to meet my own Elbrus either! "Straight to the top of my W/B Human/Spirit/Demon sac deck for you!!!"
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 24, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 04:26:15 PM
Does it work for EDH?!?!?

Does what work?  ??? The Binding blade?  ??? Why wouldn't it?  ??? Do I have any more rhetorical questions?  ???
You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 24, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 

Really?  There's no black in the cost?
I'm not totally up on EDH/Commander rules, mind you.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 24, 2012, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 24, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
You can only run Elbrus if you have a black conmander. 

Really?  There's no black in the cost?
I'm not totally up on EDH/Commander rules, mind you.
Yeah, any mana symbol anywhere on any card in the deck must only the ones on the Commander's card.

Ive had a similar argument in the past with friends that you can't use {Tatsumasa, the Dragon Fang} in a W/B EDH deck. I think you can coz there's no mana symbol, they say you can't. ðŸ˜'
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 24, 2012, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???
Yes he can, because they both have the Green mana symbol. Commander rules don't specify multicoloured, snow or Phyrexian mana symbols as a commander choice, they just represent the colours they are based in.

I wouldn't be able to put a {Naya Hushblade} into a {Rhys Redeemed} deck either. 😊
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
So {Rhys the Exiled} can't be in a {Rhys the Redeemed} EDH deck???
Nope.
I still thing the Blade should be okay since there are no black mana symbols anywhere. Can you not use {Civilized Scholar} in a {Grimgrin, Corpse-born} EDH deck?

On another note, I like how this set let's you save a creature from a {Tragic Slip} with a {Saving Grasp}. 😁

Also, we just hit 13 pages here.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
But {Rhys the Exiled} has a black ability, I know the deck, no matter what, cannot produce black, so that's irrelevant, but can he still be in it? There's a black mana symbol on the card, or is it just in the CMC? I was confused because you said if it's on the card.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
All symbols on all cards are checked.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
Damn... That sucks
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 24, 2012, 11:14:38 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
Damn... That sucks
The Community Rules:
* A card can't be included in your deck if any mana symbol in its mana cost or rules text is a color not in your commander's color identity. A card also can't be included in your deck if it has a characteristic-defining ability defining it to be a color not in your commander's color identity.

My point is that for DFCs, the moonside isn't considered until its on the field with that side up. I suppose it's more about the spirit of EDH, and I'm trying to sneak in a technicality.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
I think as far as my group would care, {Rhys the Exiled} would be fine as just a green Elf. But that is pretty dumb, especially since that would mean that having him as a Commander would make him ineligible to be in his own deck 
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: BlackJester on January 25, 2012, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 24, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
I think as far as my group would care, {Rhys the Exiled} would be fine as just a green Elf. But that is pretty dumb, especially since that would mean that having him as a Commander would make him ineligible to be in his own deck 
If that's how they'd go, cool. Frankly I like the idea that you just can't generate non-Command colors and leave it at that.

Also, about the DFCs,

CR- 903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card's color identity.
😭
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on January 25, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
Damn that sucks =/
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 25, 2012, 09:06:25 AM
This will be unsticked once Piotr releases DA on iMTG.
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Spikepit on January 26, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
Starter deckists are up:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg%2Fdaily%2Farcana%2F894
Title: Re: Dark Ascension Spoilers
Post by: Prophylaxis on January 27, 2012, 10:13:54 AM
Since we have DA right now, thread unstickied.