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Title: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: Deathseide on September 23, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
Got a question I have not been able to find a good answer to, does the creature ability infect affect a creature untargetabble by spells or abilities an opponent controls?

And can the infect negatives counters be prevented by prevent damage?
Title: Re: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: Silent1236 on September 23, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
Infect is a mechanic, not an ability, so yes it would "infect" the creature with -1/-1 counters even if it has hexproof or shroud.  And, yes, preventing damage does prevent the -1/-1's because infect is "deals damage in the form of..."
Title: Re: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: BlackJester on September 23, 2012, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 23, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
Infect is a mechanic, not an ability, so yes it would "infect" the creature with -1/-1 counters even if it has hexproof or shroud.  And, yes, preventing damage does prevent the -1/-1's because infect is "deals damage in the form of..."
Well, infect is still an ability, but it doesn't have anything to do with targeting. It just changes how the damage is dealt. A {Fallen Ferromancer} couldn't use it's "{1}{R}, {T}: Fallen Ferromancer deals 1 damage to target creature or player." ability on {Geist of Saint Traft}.  But if the 'mancer blocked the Geist, he would get a -1/-1 from combat damage.

Also, if you {Humble} the Ferromancer, it would lose infect.
Title: Re: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: Silent1236 on September 23, 2012, 11:59:20 PM
So, wait, if the Ferromancer used its tapping ability to hit a creature, it would deal standard damage?
Title: Re: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: tsul25 on September 24, 2012, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 23, 2012, 11:59:20 PM
So, wait, if the Ferromancer used its tapping ability to hit a creature, it would deal standard damage?

No. He means that he can't use the ability to target a hexproof creature even though it's dealing infect damage.
Title: Re: Infect vs untargetabble
Post by: Silent1236 on September 24, 2012, 12:24:52 AM
Quote from: tsul25 on September 24, 2012, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 23, 2012, 11:59:20 PM
So, wait, if the Ferromancer used its tapping ability to hit a creature, it would deal standard damage?

No. He means that he can't use the ability to target a hexproof creature even though it's dealing infect damage.

Oh, ok. ...derp lol 