With extremely high cardprices?
Why is black lotus so expensive?
Its a brokengood card but... Its still just a card?
Scarcity.
Honestly don't get it either. If I go nail a piece of wood to another piece of wood, can I sell it for a couple thousand saying "There's only one in the world! It's expensive because of scarcity!" Although, wood nailed to wood isn't a very good example, but you get the jist of it :P
It's no longer just a card. {black lotus} is a symbol of magic, a relic of it's origions. As with other long standing things in this world the shinest (not always literally shiny) relic is valued at a price based on a combination of the highest price paid for it and the number of people who want it.
Supply and demand. Economics 101.
Or micro, and macro, if you end up with the same teacher two semesters in a row who has taught the first month of macro verbatim to micro.
Quote from: tsul25 on September 23, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
Supply and demand. Economics 101.
Or micro, and macro, if you end up with the same teacher two semesters in a row who has taught the first month of macro verbatim to micro.
True but i think it's the demand that is confusing people.
Well maybe black lotus is a bad example but take {Mana drain} or {Tolarian academy}?
(academy was cheaper than i thought)
The factory holding all the old cards had burned down. So those cards the players have are the only ones left seeing as how they stoped printing all the older cards.
Quote from: Fenster on September 23, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Well maybe black lotus is a bad example but take {Mana drain} or {Tolarian academy}?
(academy was cheaper than i thought)
Ok those are just supply and demand. Supply is low due to the number of people who used to play magic and stopped, taking their cards with them thinking these arent worth much. I have come to realize the casual community may very well out number the fnm goers in america. So many people play magic and buy packs but dont participate in (or in some cases even know about) the over all community and sanctioned events. There are hundreds of thousands or even hundreds of millions of dollars in cards swimming around the boxxes and unsleeves decls of casual players. This means when most value cards resurface they are to damaged for the people who compete with them to want and they end up paying more for a mint card so they dont get a judge called for marking cards.
The best reason for those cards is simply supply and demand.
Magic is a "smart guy's card game". It is very complex, and people need to be skillful to succeed in it. These people tend to go on to get pretty good jobs, and stuff like this becomes their Mercedes.
Yeah i guess i knew all along. It just saddens me that its a "rich mans" game. It just sucks that you cant really make cool decks with good components unless you put serious dough in. I mean 10 bucks (or more) for a single card, like a pw, is damn steep imo.
Lol money almost always wins.
Look at the good commons they can get expensive too
Quote from: Fenster on September 23, 2012, 06:20:36 PM
Yeah i guess i knew all along. It just saddens me that its a "rich mans" game. It just sucks that you cant really make cool decks with good components unless you put serious dough in. I mean 10 bucks (or more) for a single card, like a pw, is damn steep imo.
Play Pauper?
This is why I kinda shy away from competitive standard. To do really well, you will have to get cards worth around 20 a piece. That's cheap compared to some older cards, but the older cards aren't rotating out. Standard rotates, and your amazing deck was just reduced to nothing.
Yep that's why I like draft/sealed events
Limited: the Stock Car racing of Magic. 🚗🏁
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Quote of the month.
I dunno, there's already two in contention:
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Planeswalk over to Ravnica and kick some a$$ you 2 mana fruit cake
I hereby nominate this as the quote of the month. 👏
And
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If I roll my eyes any further back, you'll be able to see my optic nerve.
This is a close one for quote of the month.
I think we need to get a sticky for quote of the month
But then everyone will just try to be a smart a$$ in every single post on the forums so they can have their moment in the sun. So no. No thread plox.
Consider it not done.
P.s. I try to be a smart 🐴 in every post anyway. 😸
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P.s. I try to be a smart 🐴 in every post anyway. 😸
^Quote of the month. Likafrigginboss
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Consider it not done.
P.s. I try to be a smart 🐴 in every post anyway. 😸
The only difference between a smart 🐴 and a dumb 🐴 is a moron.
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Consider it not done.
P.s. I try to be a smart 🐴 in every post anyway. 😸
^Quote of the month. Likafrigginboss
How many friggin' quote of the months can there be people?!? Sheesh! 😑
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So what's REALLY the deal with expensive cards anyhow?
They cost a lot
Should Totally just put a blank card in a sleeve and write
Black Lotus b*tch believe it and it's mana cost and effect
Maybe put a checklist card behind it
Quote from: Rass on September 23, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
Yep that's why I like draft/sealed events
I pretty much only play sealed and casual now.
I think the deal with expensive cards, is that you get something for nothing. Like Jace has a free brainstorm and that's part of why he is so OP. {ancestral recall} is 3 for 1. Black lotus is also 3 for 0 or 1 card. The value of acceleration in extended or legacy is what leads to the insane card prices. Also scarcity.