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Title: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 01:20:13 PM
Sucks I finally got my u/r/w controll miracle the way I want and need it to be a a good deck and win. I went 4-1 last night and only lost to infect because in the third game I sided in wrong. Took things out that I shouldn't have. Ok so we are losing {mana leak}. How good is {syncopate} never played with it. I'm done just venting cause it took me a while to figure out the right combo of cards and now I will be losing like 17 cards including my sideboard.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Dudecore on September 22, 2012, 01:28:32 PM
{Syncopate} is worse then {Mana Leak}. We will see how the meta responds.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
I know it's not as good but if you don't have it would you use the {syncopate}?
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Imdowd80 on September 22, 2012, 02:09:41 PM
In actually glad about rotation. Bye bye phyraxian mana. Nana na na hey hey hey good bye.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
Three of my spells have those. I guess if u don't use them than u play against them and don't like them.   
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: BlackJester on September 22, 2012, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 22, 2012, 01:28:32 PM
{Syncopate} is worse then {Mana Leak}. We will see how the meta responds.
{Syncopate} and {Dissipate} are gy hosers to help fight flashback/Snappy/Scavenge tricks. 
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Sur I was just thinking for the purpose of not havering to chose between creature and non creature spell via {negate} and {essence scatter}. I don't want to have to chose. {dissipate} is fine but 2u and at three it is not as good.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Poof on September 22, 2012, 03:59:45 PM
Play extended and you don't have to cycle it includes the last 4 blocks
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 04:05:09 PM
I want to but who hold extended tournaments? My current shop doesn't. I am moving to s. Dakota so hopefully they will. Where do u guys play extended? Just with your friends or what?
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Gorzo on September 22, 2012, 04:18:05 PM
Extended isn't very popular. You'll have more luck finding modern tournaments if you want to keep using your decks that are cycling out.

It's all part of the great rotation. It happens. Adapt and make use of the influx of new glory coming in the new set. If you are dead-set on playing the same deck over and over forever, I hate to say it, but standard just isn't the format for that.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
I understand I am just venting. 
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Gorzo on September 22, 2012, 04:37:12 PM
Understandable, we all know what it feels like when our favorite deck loses its MVPs. But you have lots of people here to help you come up with solutions/replacements.

They syncopate/counterspell discussion could go any which way and depends a lot on how you used mana leak the most. That's a tough call. But what other key cards are losing in the rotation, and what type of deck do you run? I'm sure we can make some replacement suggestions for ya
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 04:49:08 PM
{gitaxian probe}.   {day of judgement} {karn liberated} {surgical extraction}  {mental misstep}. I know DOJ is getting replaced I guess I could use bolas for karn. The other I think there is a SE like card.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Coffee Vampire on September 22, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
If you don't want to cycle then maybe you should get a car.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Gorzo on September 22, 2012, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 04:49:08 PM
{gitaxian probe}.   {day of judgement} {karn liberated} {surgical extraction}  {mental misstep}. I know DOJ is getting replaced I guess I could use bolas for karn. The other I think there is a SE like card.

DOJ is easy enough to replace. The new Azorious board wipe, and {Terminus} are probably your best candidates.

Are you using gitaxian probe more for seeing hands or more for cheap draw? {thought scour} can replace it as a cheap draw spell, and gains instant speed, though you lose the hand-peek. If you're using it to get players to reveal their hand, is {duress} in m13?

{Shimian Specter} is not as easy to use as surgical extraction, for many reasons, but of you need that effect, it's still in standard on a different body. If your deck is {W}/{R}/{U} though, you might be better off with something like {Nevermore}.

I'll be honest, I'm terrible with choosing counterspells, so I'll let someone else comment on replacing those.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 05:10:43 PM
Thanks for the input. 
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: BcBudds on September 22, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
I'm not that sad about rotation, I started playing when avacyn came out so I mostly have cards as old as innastred, only cards I need to rotate out of my deck I'm using (sad to see them go though) are {go for the throat} {blood seeker} {marrow shards} and that's it..... So effffffffin glad to see {day of judgement} go... But now there's a new one that can't be countered!?!
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: smokin terry on September 22, 2012, 05:26:38 PM
I'm going to miss my player reward days. :,(
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
What is the player rewards? Do they still do that?
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: smokin terry on September 22, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
What is the player rewards? Do they still do that?
No they ended the program a while ago but every few months they would send people that registered their science cards full art commons and once you went to so many events they would sent a full art foil rare. They sent me double the last time because they ended it.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
That sucks that they ended it.   
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: smokin terry on September 22, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
Quote from: Richardalcala on September 22, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
That sucks that they ended it.
It was so they could sent more stuff to the shops and do different things like the hell vaults during the avacyn restored prerelease.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: Richardalcala on September 23, 2012, 06:36:50 PM
Looking at the new cards I am not as worried. I found {search warrant} and I love the new charms. I love having the choices.
Title: Re: I don't want to cycle.
Post by: smokin terry on September 23, 2012, 08:00:47 PM
Ya I'm going to love having multi colors agian. I hated losing the shards block to scars of mirrodin.