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Is anyone else thinking this card might be awesome in standard with things like {Unburial Rites} and {Cloudshift} existing?
Something like Grites/Frites should easily make this MB or at least SB
-Shuts down opposing reanimate decks, since you can Oring opposing GY fatties
-could wreck control and combo, as trip Orings can set opponents way to far behind.
- against tokens, you just kill 3 buddies... Plus have a body big enough for the upcoming standard (as far as we know)
Might work in modern, since it's similar to {Reveillark}... ish... But I don't know modern. Main downside is you pretty much have to cheat her mana cost.
Thoughts? Am I just delusional?
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I love it, and am glad to see someone else liking her. People in the RTR spoiler thread didn't like her very much. She is a pricey at 8 CMC/triple {W}, but her effect if just Sooo versatile. All of the things you mentioned, plus {revive} on your own GY, clear blockers out for a fatal swing, mix and match to any situation based on the state of the board... With a handy-dandy 5/6 flyer to throw in their face in the meantime. I'm looking forward to picking a few of her up.
I think Azorius is going to have many delay tactics to take you to the long game. She's not far from most beatsticks coming up. Is the meta going to slow down?
I don't see her being a force. Seems like a standard mythic. Does something other cards don't really do, isn't exciting. {Defy Death} has a nice synergy, can hold a sword, flies.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2012, 01:34:19 PM
I don't see her being a force. Seems like a standard mythic. Does something other cards don't really do, isn't exciting. {Defy Death} has a nice synergy, can hold a sword, flies.
She is Gonna be wicked with {cloudshift}. Return 3 cards from your graveyard to your hand? Or bounce 3 creatures to opponents hand and o-ring 3 more. I think she's got lots of utility if you can afford to cast her.
I think some sort of Esper frites/defy death would be fun post rotation.
Probably a 1-of in a G/W Angels. {Avacyn's Pilgrim}, {Restoration Angel}, {Entreat the Angels} built around {Herald of War}.
Throw in {Defy Death}. {Loxodon Smiter} (because he's insane). Sounds viable. Won't know till I playtest it.
Flicker frite. {Restoration angel} and {unburial rites}, use serenity to bring back the restoration and use her effect again. {supreme verdict} after using rites on {avacyn, angel of hope} perhaps. At that point i would run the {fiend hunter}, {angel of glory's rise} combo with human mana dorks like {somberwald sage} and {avacyn's pilgrim}. I'll make it, but i dont think ill be te one competing with it.
HOLY CRAP SHE'S NOT LEGENDARY!!!
Quote from: bravado883 on September 15, 2012, 05:44:33 PM
Outside of Frites I doubt she'll see play in standard. I don't really get what the fuss is about. There will be very few times when you NEED her where you couldn't use a cheaper card with a similar, albeit less spectacular, effect. I think she's strictly worse than {Frost Titan} for control decks, and while she could be good with {HHerald of War}...no one plays that card and I don't think that's going to change just so we can play Serenity.
I feel the same way. Frites can make her playable, but why? Reanimator (or frites for this matter) can make anything playable, but does that make it a good card?
Ok here is why i think she is great. She is a large threat that comes with three choices of delayed unsummons and/ or {disentomb}s
Quote from: Kaleo42 on September 15, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
Ok here is why i think she is great. She is a large threat that comes with three choices of delayed unsummons and/ or {disentomb}s
Also in a frites mirror it can stop reanimation targets your opponent might have in their GY. I believe this makes her a dissent card. Not great but not a bad card. Could see play in UW control as well. Maybe as a 1 or 2 of.
At worst, I see her making sideboards in reanimator decks for mirror matches. I mean, {Angel of Glory's Rise} sees play in those decks just to come in vs Zombies.
If your playing Reanimator, you basically want ridiculous creatures that are nuts as soon as they land. This certainly qualifies. :)
She halts undying if she enters after the undying trigger and before it resolves.
Not sure how you're casting her at instant speed, but yes. :P This is for the most part the same effect, but not as restricted. Plus can hit GYs.
{alchemist's refuge} and any flicker instant could be easily used.
That'd be the jankiest thing to pull off, lol!
Assuming its reanimator, you'd be running a 4 color deck, and couldn't pull that off til turn 9 at best. :)
Don't say you'd play ramp cause it's green... Cause... No, just no ;)
{Restoration angel}, {cloudshift}, ramp, and splash black for rites. 3 colors.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on September 15, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
{Restoration angel}, {cloudshift}, ramp, and splash black for rites. 3 colors.
The refuge requires U/G, the angel is W and rites is B. 4 colors.
Quote from: Maximo on September 15, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on September 15, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
{Restoration angel}, {cloudshift}, ramp, and splash black for rites. 3 colors.
Sorry i just realized i said "and" instead of "or" in that origional post.
The refuge requires U/G, the angel is W and rites is B. 4 colors.
Ahhh, gotcha. I was referring exclusively to reanimator, hence my posts.
My apologies if I sounded condescending.
Not at all, i see what happened. I think in all reality im gunna use her in my deadeye navigator combo deck. She's the insurance i have been looking for she brings back my dead combo pieces.
OHH MAN
{Deadeye Navigator}... Y u so good!?
I like it
Quote from: Phat Max on September 15, 2012, 08:44:42 PM
OHH MAN
{Deadeye Navigator}... Y u so good!?
I like it
A guy named joel... He created the jankiest stuff in the world because he played for fun, but every deck he made and every time he played he could give jon finkel a run for his money. I learned everything i could from him while he lived here. He is The best player and best deck biulder i have ever known personally and had he been more competitive he wouldve ruled the fnms, ptqs, and all the other events in the state. They way he looks at the game is amazing. It's a realm of infinite possibilites and he doesnt limit himself to his goal, he allows his mind to take him in every direction that could end at his goal no matter how jank or convaluted it is.
I found out i had developed similar thoughts when i was teching with a teammate. The boardstate was {heartless summoning}, {havengul lich}, {priest of urabrask} for infinite mana, but no burn spell and i had to beat him that turn or id lose to infect. I had a {forbidden alchemy} a {solemn simulacrum} and a {inferno titan} in my hand and a {phyrexian metamorph} in the yard. My team mate looked at it and saw that i could cast solemn, then alchemy in hopes of hitting {bonfire of the damned}. I instead cast solemn, cast metamorph coping solemn and thinned my deck, then cast alchemy hitting two land an inferno titan and a solemn. I kept a basic land and pitched the others i cast the solemn and thinned more, and then blew danny's mind by casting inferno titan and shooting my own solemns and drawing more cards. I continued a insane process of casting and killing my solemns with the second titan and then metamorphed the titan to keep it going and drew another titan to dig even deeper. 28 cards later with all that and an alchemy then finally used my last basic land to flash back the alchemy that finally hit the bonfire for the game.
Strictly worse?
Strictly worse has a specific meaning in magic. Conditionally worse and strictly worse are different.
Strictly worse means that there is realistically never a situation where you'd want the lesser of the cards. Either you get more effect or better results for the same CMC or you get the same effect for less CMC. This is pretty rare.
{Ashcoat Bears} and {Gnarlid Pack} are strictly better then {Runeclaw Bears}.
Otherwise, conditionally better means that card A is often or usually better than card B, but there are time where you'd rather have card B.