What lands would y'all suggest in a Karn deck?
You are allowed to use basic lands of any type (island, forest, mountain, swamp, or plains) in a commander deck with a colorless commander like {Karn, the Silver Golem}. Those basic lands, however, will only produce colorless mana instead of their usual mana of color.
Quote from: Gorzo on September 10, 2012, 04:07:05 AM
You are allowed to use basic lands of any type (island, forest, mountain, swamp, or plains) in a commander deck with a colorless commander like {Karn, the Silver Golem}. Those basic lands, however, will only produce colorless mana instead of their usual mana of color.
Nope, they contain mana symbols so they can't be used.
Quote from: Shivix on September 10, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 10, 2012, 04:07:05 AM
You are allowed to use basic lands of any type (island, forest, mountain, swamp, or plains) in a commander deck with a colorless commander like {Karn, the Silver Golem}. Those basic lands, however, will only produce colorless mana instead of their usual mana of color.
Nope, they contain mana symbols so they can't be used.
What are you talking about? Check the rules.
It's a special rule for colorless decks to allow them the option of using basic lands. It is an officially adapted rule, specific to decks of no color just to relieve the stress abd hassle of forcing them into getting 40~ different nonbasic colorless lands for their deck.
I'm not even sure if there ARE 40 playable colorless nonbasic lands.
Are there any lands to look at specifically?
Quote from: Fenster on September 10, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: Shivix on September 10, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 10, 2012, 04:07:05 AM
You are allowed to use basic lands of any type (island, forest, mountain, swamp, or plains) in a commander deck with a colorless commander like {Karn, the Silver Golem}. Those basic lands, however, will only produce colorless mana instead of their usual mana of color.
Nope, they contain mana symbols so they can't be used.
What are you talking about? Check the rules.
Ok, let's check rule 903.5d
Quote from: Shivix on September 11, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: Fenster on September 10, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: Shivix on September 10, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 10, 2012, 04:07:05 AM
You are allowed to use basic lands of any type (island, forest, mountain, swamp, or plains) in a commander deck with a colorless commander like {Karn, the Silver Golem}. Those basic lands, however, will only produce colorless mana instead of their usual mana of color.
Nope, they contain mana symbols so they can't be used.
What are you talking about? Check the rules.
Ok, let's check rule 903.5d
You be right unless another ruling says otter wise, but also keep in mind commander is mostly house rules, so in a commander pod at an event if someone in your pod says you have an illegal deck and says to the judge that he or she doesnt find it fair or just doesnt agree to let you play it youcould get DQd or just have to have another deck handy.
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on September 11, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
Are there any lands to look at specifically?
Hmm... Well, since all the lands that have any color costs or production are out, you are going to want really any land that enters untapped, can produce {1} (or more), and ideally offers an optional effect that might be of use once in a blue moon. Take {Ghost Quarter} for example. Most of the time, it will essentially be a basic land for you. Every once in a while, an opponent will play a troublesome land like {mikokoro center of the sea} or {Svogthos the restless tomb} and use can use your quarter to get rid of it.
{temple of the false god} is a good one for you also. It's good for any EDH deck really, but in a deck without color it's even better. {darksteel citadel} is another one...I suggest going through sets you have most available and filtering iMtG's search by land. Sift for gold!
Edit: dammit, I hate being wrong. The colorless commander basic land rule is an ALTERNATIVE rule, not the official rule. Shiv is right, officially basic lands cannot be in a deck with a colorless commander. You're gonna have to find 40 nonbasics with no color anywhere on em. My apologies for the misinformation
Thats gay. You would think they would be a little more laid back in a casual format. I mean it's freaking edh. It was made to bring out the max creativity in players, so to limit them is retarded. Plus who cares what wizards has to say on this ge type, they only got involved to make extra money. I say .love. em. It's not hurting anyone to play basic lands but they only tap for colorless. So I say live your dreams bro and if someone has the audacity to be a douche nozzle and call you out on it, you can send them to me and I'll personally tell them to .love. off and to eat a dick.
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 11, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Thats gay. You would think they would be a little more laid back in a casual format. I mean it's freaking edh. It was made to bring out the max creativity in players, so to limit them is retarded. Plus who cares what wizards has to say on this ge type, they only got involved to make extra money. I say curse em. It's not hurting anyone to play basic lands but they only tap for colorless. So I say live your dreams bro and if someone has the audacity to be a douche nozzle and call you out on it, you can send them to me and I'll personally tell them to run off and to eat sourkraut.
Watch the language, pal!
{urza's Mine}, {Urza's Power Plant} and the other one that is escaping me right now.
Urza's tower
Quote from: Fenster on September 12, 2012, 03:26:53 AM
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 11, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Thats gay. You would think they would be a little more laid back in a casual format. I mean it's freaking edh. It was made to bring out the max creativity in players, so to limit them is retarded. Plus who cares what wizards has to say on this ge type, they only got involved to make extra money. I say curse em. It's not hurting anyone to play basic lands but they only tap for colorless. So I say live your dreams bro and if someone has the audacity to be a douche nozzle and call you out on it, you can send them to me and I'll personally tell them to run off and to eat sourkraut.
Watch the language, pal!
Yes sir captain sir, Ill be sure to watch all the fucks I don't give from here on out
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 12, 2012, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Fenster on September 12, 2012, 03:26:53 AM
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 11, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Thats gay. You would think they would be a little more laid back in a casual format. I mean it's freaking edh. It was made to bring out the max creativity in players, so to limit them is retarded. Plus who cares what wizards has to say on this ge type, they only got involved to make extra money. I say curse em. It's not hurting anyone to play basic lands but they only tap for colorless. So I say live your dreams bro and if someone has the audacity to be a douche nozzle and call you out on it, you can send them to me and I'll personally tell them to run off and to eat sourkraut.
Watch the language, pal!
Yes sir captain sir, Ill be sure to watch all the fucks I don't give from here on out
Ha
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 12, 2012, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: Fenster on September 12, 2012, 03:26:53 AM
Quote from: Bixlorious on September 11, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
Thats gay. You would think they would be a little more laid back in a casual format. I mean it's freaking edh. It was made to bring out the max creativity in players, so to limit them is retarded. Plus who cares what wizards has to say on this ge type, they only got involved to make extra money. I say curse em. It's not hurting anyone to play basic lands but they only tap for colorless. So I say live your dreams bro and if someone has the audacity to be a douche nozzle and call you out on it, you can send them to me and I'll personally tell them to run off and to eat sourkraut.
Watch the language, pal!
Yes sir captain sir, Ill be sure to watch all the fucks I don't give from here on out
That kinda made me lol, but he has a point. This forum is PG-9 :P