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Title: Jace loop
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 08, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
{doubling season} + {jace, architect of thought}
Immediately crack the ultimate and search out their best thing and another jace AoT, repeat, repeat and then search out {emrakul, the Aeons torn} and take your extra turn and swing.
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Quackmaster5 on September 08, 2012, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on September 08, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
{doubling season} + {jace, architect of thought}
Immediately crack the ultimate and search out their best thing and another jace AoT, repeat, repeat and then search out {emrakul, the Aeons torn} and take your extra turn and swing.

First off, emrakul needs to be cast for the extra turn.

Second, I don't believe doubling season effects how many loyalties it enters with. Only how many are put on.
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on September 08, 2012, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on September 08, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
{doubling season} + {jace, architect of thought}
Immediately crack the ultimate and search out their best thing and another jace AoT, repeat, repeat and then search out {emrakul, the Aeons torn} and take your extra turn and swing.

First off, emrakul needs to be cast for the extra turn.

Second, I don't believe doubling season effects how many loyalties it enters with. Only how many are put on.
Sorry Quack, but that's the exact opposite of correct. XD

{Doubling Season} doubles the number of counters a PW enters with, but not how many are put on as a cost of an ability.

Jace's ulti lets you CAST the cards from the libraries. This combo is legit. 👍
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Quackmaster5 on September 09, 2012, 12:32:13 AM
Oh fiddle sticks. 😔 it's weird bc if you read doubling season, it says "an effect". Wouldn't using an ability be that?

Good job with this combo then!
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: BlackJester on September 09, 2012, 12:54:12 AM
The loyalty counters put on as it enters are from an effect.

The counters put on to activate an ability are a cost. So no doubly-doubly. 👎
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Quackmaster5 on September 09, 2012, 01:11:20 AM
Ahhh gotcha. That's cool then. Makes doubling season even MORE OP!
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 09, 2012, 02:36:11 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on September 09, 2012, 01:11:20 AM
Ahhh gotcha. That's cool then. Makes doubling season even MORE OP!
Is that possible?
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Fenster on September 09, 2012, 02:41:06 AM
{Vraska the unseen} fits the color even.
i love the new pw's :D
Powerful but not op!
(Vraska is abit op but still not broken ;D)
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: Kaleo42 on September 09, 2012, 02:53:23 AM
Small disclaimer here, my only contrabution to this was the emrakul. Justin, our tournement organizer and second most active judge in town, was talking about this idea an i remembered that it read "cast" on the ultimate. He was thinking establish amazing board presence and i jumped in a started shooting ideas to end the game that turn like {urabrask the hidden}, {fervor}, or some storm spells. Ive found the most reliable combos are thoses that can be done at instant speed or end the game immediately, just establishing board presence doesnt justify building around a combo in my eyes (strong synergies are a different story).
Title: Re: Jace loop
Post by: cltrn81 on September 09, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
The new jace's ultimate states you "cast" the cards you exile from the libraries for 0 CMC.....therefore the Emerakul extra turn works too.