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Magic (The Gathering) => Combo Corner => Topic started by: Cindjor on September 05, 2012, 05:28:26 AM

Title: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 05, 2012, 05:28:26 AM
I've been thinking how to use {Ooze Garden} effectively. And then I realized,

{Sneak Attack} + {Ooze Garden} and any giant over costed creatures for the paltry price of {R}+1{G} after the enchantments resolve of course. Swing, hit(hopefully) then recycle your huge creature and make a huge blocker!
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 05, 2012, 12:47:40 PM
Excellent!  Go with top-heavy creatures like {Ball Lightning} or {Groundbreaker} too.  They'd work well even if you don't get your sneak attack out.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 05, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
Ground breaker and ball lightning work great! And the forcemage is a good one too. Makes them survive that initial attack then get a bigger fatty to stick around.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Gorzo on September 05, 2012, 01:27:53 PM
You're already green, so {titanic growth} before you swing and you get a permanently +4 stronger ooze when you sac it to the garden. I like this!

Ooze garden works great with {parallel lives} and {doubling season} too. "What, I have a 1/1 saproling? Let's turn it into twice that many oozes." Or in this case, "What, I have a 6/1 ball lightning? Let's turn it into 2 6/6 oozes"
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 05, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
Once you start combining {Sneak Attack} and {Doubling Season}, you're already on upper-level brokenness. 💎
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 05, 2012, 05:51:31 PM
Haha {doubling season} is almost overkill. I think {parallel lives} would be fine. If sneak attack wasn't so expensive I'd want to run this combo in multiplayer.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: cltrn81 on September 05, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
Don't forget {act of treason} sac your opponents creatures too ;)
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 06, 2012, 01:26:47 AM
If I sac a {progenitus} from {sneak attack}, i still shuffle it back into my library right?
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Inconnu on September 06, 2012, 01:30:21 AM
Quote from: Cindjor on September 06, 2012, 01:26:47 AM
If I sac a {progenitus} from {sneak attack}, i still shuffle it back into my library right?
Yep.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Wally on September 06, 2012, 04:46:17 AM
You should also run {gutter grime} in this deck.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 08, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Since I don't need regular mana to get creatures in play, what are good creatures that shuffle back into my library? Like emrakul and progenitus?
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Fenster on September 08, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
Haha! Emrakul! Awesome!
Post posting addition to post (not to fill up the thread too much):
Any creature with undying or persist would make a great addition!
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Gorzo on September 08, 2012, 04:59:35 PM
Quote from: Cindjor on September 08, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Since I don't need regular mana to get creatures in play, what are good creatures that shuffle back into my library? Like emrakul and progenitus?

{Kozilek, Butcher of Truths}, {Ulamog the Infinite Gyre}, {Blightsteel Colossus}, the new Return to Ravnica Wurm...oh god the Wurm would be perfect.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 08, 2012, 06:13:11 PM
Haha I forgot about the RtR worm. 4 for the price of one...that's just ridiculous. I need to make this deck sooner than later. The ooze garden welcomes the return to ravnica! Hahaha
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 07:29:43 PM
If you're using {Sneak Attack}, {Survival of the Fittest} can turn a {Birds of Paradise} into a 15/15.

Plus, go nuts with this guy and {Verdant Succession}.  I'll give you a second to think about that one. 🕙 😉
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 08, 2012, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 07:29:43 PM
If you're using {Sneak Attack}, {Survival of the Fittest} can turn a {Birds of Paradise} into a 15/15.

Plus, go nuts with this guy and {Verdant Succession}.  I'll give you a second to think about that one. 🕙 😉

LOL that's amazing. Army of {groundbreaker} please.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 08:34:18 PM
{Sneak Attack} + {Verdant Succession} + {a green monster that shuffles back into your library when it dies leaving behind 3 5/5s}

but you didn't hear that from me. :-X
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 08, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Hear what? 8)
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
Go infinite if you have {Phyrexian Altar} too.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Dudecore on September 08, 2012, 10:10:13 PM
{Sneak Attack} + {Doubling Season} + Worldspine Wurm.

Is this awesome (Y/N)?
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 08, 2012, 10:26:50 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 08, 2012, 10:10:13 PM
{Sneak Attack} + {Doubling Season} + Worldspine Wurm.

Is this awesome (Y/N)?
Y, but I still like Succession better for this.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Fenster on September 09, 2012, 01:48:57 AM
{Verdant succession} + {Demigod of revenge}?
Edit: ah nvm. Only green creatures.
{Bloodbond march} then?
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: BlackJester on September 09, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
Quote from: Fenster on September 09, 2012, 01:48:57 AM
{Verdant succession} + {Demigod of revenge}?
Edit: ah nvm. Only green creatures.
{Bloodbond march} then?
Redundant.

{Verdant Succession} + {Worldspine Wurm} + sacrifice outlet = 8 on its side.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Fenster on September 09, 2012, 01:55:46 AM
Im not sure what the word redundant means in this case but {Bloodbond march} would only trigger when casting so doesnt work this combo either.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 09, 2012, 05:19:24 AM
I like the idea of adding in {Serra Avatar} and {Guile} just for kicks.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Gorzo on September 09, 2012, 05:49:14 AM
I would totally build myself a copy of this deck if {sneak attack} weren't so G-D expensive. I really love what's going on here :P
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 09, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on September 09, 2012, 05:49:14 AM
I would totally build myself a copy of this deck if {sneak attack} weren't so G-D expensive. I really love what's going on here :P

I think I used to have one copy in my binder back in the day... But I have no idea where it is now. I is a sad panda.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on September 09, 2012, 07:35:44 PM
You can't sac the creature to the ooze if you already sac'd it to the fling.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 09, 2012, 09:44:50 PM
No, but you can sac it to the ooze then {fling} the creature later. But if fling finishes off your opponent, then you don't need the ooze.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: Cindjor on September 11, 2012, 05:32:15 PM
Just posted the deck list for sneak attack and ooze garden. Haha lemme know what you think.
Title: Re: More for less
Post by: KulrathKnight on September 11, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: Cindjor on September 09, 2012, 05:19:24 AM
I like the idea of adding in {Serra Avatar} and {Guile} just for kicks.

{Painter's Servant}, the avatar is now green. Use {Disciple of Grisselbrand} for good times.