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Title: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 03:10:16 PM
{Phylactery Lich}

It's amazing to me. Great art, a 5/5 indestructible for 3 swamps and all you need to do is keep a few artifacts out. Or even just one.

Really liking this card.

Have any cards like this that seem to be under the radar, yet pretty cool in some way?
Always a good convo to expand knowledge of the cards out there, I've found.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: Silent1236 on September 01, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
I've actually had a very tough time with that card and {Darksteel Relic} :-\
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Post by: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
Fragile to arti-hate. Problem with Relic is its a dead-card by itself.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: Silent1236 on September 01, 2012, 03:20:16 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
Fragile to arti-hate. Problem with Relic is its a dead-card by itself.
Oh, i know the relic is nearly useless, but you put the lichs counter on it and he causes troubles. 
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on September 01, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
I've actually had a very tough time with that card and {Darksteel Relic} :-\

But great combo for using the Lich
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 03:22:28 PM
What I do like about this guy is if you get two of them out and each one puts a counter on two different arties, they have to destroy both artifacts to kill the Liches.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 03:31:58 PM
What would be neat about the Relic is opponent will be scratching their head or thinking ur an idiot until you thrown down the Lich and it's an indestructible rampage. Less -x/-x and sacrifice cards of course. Think I might need to make a 3rd zombie deck lol
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Post by: Quackmaster5 on September 01, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
{darksteel axe} would be fun with this.
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Post by: Kaleo42 on September 01, 2012, 04:15:31 PM
Im going to bump my gf's tezzeret deck in standard. I added an element of fliker to it cause you only need one phylactery counter on board to keep any number of liches and putting multiple counters across the board kept them from dying the easy way.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
Ooh Darksteel axe is a good idea. {Darksteel Pendant} or {Darksteel Ingot} could be fun too w this
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Post by: Mikefrompluto on September 01, 2012, 04:18:56 PM
I didn't realize this guy was a zombie until now. May have to throw a few copies and some artifacts in my zombie deck.
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Post by: Phoenix X30 on September 01, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
I got this in a booster a few days ago and it went straight into my zombies deck :)
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Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on September 01, 2012, 05:52:02 PM
{Dismember}. Just saying, once that rotates the loch might be more popular.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: DevilGin on September 01, 2012, 05:55:20 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
Ooh Darksteel axe is a good idea. {Darksteel Pendant} or {Darksteel Ingot} could be fun too w this

{darksteel plate} {darksteel myr}

this card is good t ocombo with {worldslayer} :D if you wanna be a not-nice-person. ;p
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: Thorn on September 01, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
I saw a {B}{W} lich deck with indestructible artifacts, creatures, and lots of {Day of Judgement} effects.
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Post by: Dudecore on September 01, 2012, 06:18:07 PM
You could use {Darksteel Citadel}? I think that's pretty cool.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Another great thing is his indestructiblity as a black zombie mitigates cards like {Call to the Grave} and a few other sacrifice cards. Certainly not all by any means, but enough to make it even more difficult to be removed.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 01, 2012, 06:18:07 PM
You could use {Darksteel Citadel}? I think that's pretty cool.

Another awesome card
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Another great thing is his indestructiblity as a black zombie mitigates cards like {Call to the Grave} and a few other sacrifice cards. Certainly not all by any means, but enough to make it even more difficult to be removed.
Indestrucability doesn't prevent a card from being sacrificed.
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Post by: smokin terry on September 01, 2012, 06:45:24 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Another great thing is his indestructiblity as a black zombie mitigates cards like {Call to the Grave} and a few other sacrifice cards. Certainly not all by any means, but enough to make it even more difficult to be removed.
Indestrucability doesn't prevent a card from being sacrificed.
I think he was say have both out. They keep sacrificing guys while you have an indestructible guy that is hard to get rid of. Make both a little better.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 07:05:26 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Another great thing is his indestructiblity as a black zombie mitigates cards like {Call to the Grave} and a few other sacrifice cards. Certainly not all by any means, but enough to make it even more difficult to be removed.
Indestrucability doesn't prevent a card from being sacrificed.

If u read my point was that because he is a black zombie it mitigates cards like that specifically ;)
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: smokin terry on September 01, 2012, 06:45:24 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Another great thing is his indestructiblity as a black zombie mitigates cards like {Call to the Grave} and a few other sacrifice cards. Certainly not all by any means, but enough to make it even more difficult to be removed.
Indestrucability doesn't prevent a card from being sacrificed.
I think he was say have both out. They keep sacrificing guys while you have an indestructible guy that is hard to get rid of. Make both a little better.

Yup :) and since he's a zombie he wouldn't be sacrificed so it's a pretty decent combination
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
RTFC Jester. 😖
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
RTFC Jester. 😖

*gives Jester beer if over 21 and Dr Pepper of not w buffalo wings*

Anyone watching football?
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 10:02:55 PM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 01, 2012, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 01, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
RTFC Jester. 😖

*gives Jester beer if over 21 and Dr Pepper of not w buffalo wings*

Anyone watching football?
Cheers!  🍻 thanks
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 02, 2012, 12:02:36 AM
He is pretty sweet, he would've been better when Scars block was around though, unless RTR has some cool artifacts, because we're losing Swords and everything.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 02, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
Hate how on 10/5 it's like we basically lose all these hundreds of dollars we spent as far as standard is concerned. Wish they'd stop doing that or stretch it further
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 02, 2012, 12:38:20 AM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 02, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
Hate how on 10/5 it's like we basically lose all these hundreds of dollars we spent as far as standard is concerned. Wish they'd stop doing that or stretch it further
You mean Extended. That's a thing. Take up Modern.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 02, 2012, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on September 02, 2012, 12:38:20 AM
Quote from: RevanJJ on September 02, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
Hate how on 10/5 it's like we basically lose all these hundreds of dollars we spent as far as standard is concerned. Wish they'd stop doing that or stretch it further
You mean Extended. That's a thing. Take up Modern.
I've been trying man! Shock Lands are expensive though lol.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 02, 2012, 12:53:21 AM
Imagine that. ;)
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Post by: Cindjor on September 02, 2012, 03:22:42 AM
The shock lands are being reprinted in RtR though. =)
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Post by: Fishsticks123 on September 02, 2012, 11:28:14 AM
So thy are gonna go down.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: BlackJester on September 02, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on September 02, 2012, 11:28:14 AM
So thy are gonna go down.
Probably, but not necessarily. Sometimes reprints make players want the original prints because they're Standard legal again.
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Post by: ChrisRodriguez on September 02, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
The shock lands could go down in value, but I don't think by much. Maybe at the most $5. Only cause it was the original print.
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Post by: Leviathan on September 02, 2012, 05:04:35 PM
Turn one {Vault of Whispers}, {Dark Ritual}, {Phylactory Lich} go.
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 02, 2012, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on September 02, 2012, 05:04:35 PM
Turn one {Vault of Whispers}, {Dark Ritual}, {Phylactory Lich} go.
Niiice
Title: Re: I never see anyone talk about this card..
Post by: RevanJJ on September 03, 2012, 05:42:32 PM
I just remade a zombie deck using a playset of {Phylacter Lich}, { Darksteel Axe}, a playset of {Vault of Whispers} into my Geth Deck using { Geth, Lord of the Vault} and a few { Trepanation Blades} . Will let you guys know how it goes tomorrow night.
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Post by: Dudecore on September 03, 2012, 06:27:04 PM
The shock lands will go down in value. They're already around $10-$20. More people that open packs, the more the value will go down. Same with the core tap lands, the further we got from M12 the higher they got, till M13.

If anything, get your Innistrad enemy tap lands, we're only getting further from them. Like the Scars enemy lands, price goes ^ and then they near rotation and plummet.