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Title: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 03:35:32 PM

Mono-Black Vamp 'control'

60 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Mountain}
16 {Swamp}
4 {Dragonskull Summit}
2 {Evolving Wilds}

23 lands


4 {Blood Artist}
4 {Vampire Nighthawk}
4 {Vampire Nocturnus}
4 {Bloodline Keeper}
2 {Olivia Voldaren}

18 creatures


4 {Sign in Blood}
3 {Killing Wave}
4 {Geth's Verdict}
4 {Murder}
4 {Duress}

19 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
Thought I would post this due to the recent talk of how bad tribal vamps is in standard. The problem with some camp decks is that vamps isn't fast, so it needs to have some aspect of control. This deck has been being worked on for a while, and tends to stomp at FNM's, about 1/2 the time gets first. The only problem is that it has a lot of 4 drops, but that tends to not be a problem. Technically not Completely mono-black, but all non-lands activate Nocturnus.... So.....
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: xBeLLaTriX on August 31, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
Love it, will certainly be making some revisions to my current vampire deck.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Leevai420 on August 31, 2012, 04:51:39 PM
Haha not mono black u splash red for Olivia might as well put in some bonfires
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Leevai420 on August 31, 2012, 04:51:39 PM
Haha not mono black u splash red for Olivia might as well put in some bonfires
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Mothaelon on August 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
You can't run vampires without nobles, Just cannot be done without some form
Of one drop board presence with all the different types on meta right now.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Silent1236 on August 31, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on August 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
You can't run vampires without nobles, Just cannot be done without some form
Of one drop board presence with all the different types on meta right now.

I've run vamps for a while and have yet to play a {Stromkirk Noble} once.  That's just me though, and I don't usually play standard 
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Wally on August 31, 2012, 05:56:47 PM

Quote from: Mothaelon on August 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
You can't run vampires without nobles, Just cannot be done without some form
Of one drop board presence with all the different types on meta right now.

Um well apparently it can..


Quote from: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
Technically not Completely mono-black, but all non-lands activate Nocturnus....

Also FYI. Lands are colorless..
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on August 31, 2012, 04:51:39 PM
Haha not mono black u splash red for Olivia might as well put in some bonfires
Oh no I'm splashing red for one card that is still a black card! It's the end of the world that called it mono-B!!! And I don't have money for that. Contrary to popular belief, not EVERY red deck needs bonfire.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on August 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
You can't run vampires without nobles, Just cannot be done without some form
Of one drop board presence with all the different types on meta right now.
I've done fine without it so far. It's not nessecary. It just doesn't fit... Vampires is a rather slow archetype that is more control-esqe, and Noble is an aggro card
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Silent1236 on August 31, 2012, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on August 31, 2012, 05:05:02 PM
You can't run vampires without nobles, Just cannot be done without some form
Of one drop board presence with all the different types on meta right now.
I've done fine without it so far. It's not nessecary. It just doesn't fit... Vampires is a rather slow archetype that is more control-esqe, and Noble is an aggro card

I have seen Noble do a hell of a lot more damage along side goblins and other "rush" cards.  I honestly don't know that I've seen him work well in a tribal vamp deck.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: Wally on August 31, 2012, 05:56:47 PM
Also FYI. Lands are colorless..
I am aware. They are the only things that don't activate Nocturnus
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Wally on August 31, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: Wally on August 31, 2012, 05:56:47 PM
Also FYI. Lands are colorless..
I am aware. They are the only things that don't activate Nocturnus
Lol don't wory about me. I misread that as all lands.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Thorn on August 31, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
{Ghoulcaler's Bell} works awesome with Nocturnous.
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Wally on August 31, 2012, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: Thorn on August 31, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
{Ghoulcaler's Bell} works awesome with Nocturnous.

I wa thinking {Druidic satchel} would work pretty well too
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Fishsticks123 on August 31, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
How about {Cavern of Souls}?
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on August 31, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on August 31, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
How about {Cavern of Souls}?
Same thing i said about Bonfire dude... don't have that much money....
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: An Angry Fatman on September 01, 2012, 02:17:48 AM
I don't know about you guys saying camps are slow... I've only seen one deck that is faster than my vamp deck and it was a R/W human deck... It's fast as hell with {falkenrath aristocrats}
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on September 01, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: An Angry Fatman on September 01, 2012, 02:17:48 AM
I don't know about you guys saying camps are slow... I've only seen one deck that is faster than my vamp deck and it was a R/W human deck... It's fast as hell with {falkenrath aristocrats}
Sure there are 2-3 fast cards. That's been established. But the tribal vamp archetype in general is slow. And If the only faster deck was humans, you've clearly never seen infect
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Silent1236 on September 01, 2012, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Guitello on September 01, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: An Angry Fatman on September 01, 2012, 02:17:48 AM
I don't know about you guys saying camps are slow... I've only seen one deck that is faster than my vamp deck and it was a R/W human deck... It's fast as hell with {falkenrath aristocrats}
Sure there are 2-3 fast cards. That's been established. But the tribal vamp archetype in general is slow. And If the only faster deck was humans, you've clearly never seen infect

This.  Red has {Falkenrath Aristocrat}, {Stromkirk Noble}, {Rakish Heir}, and I really can't think of any other red aggro vamps. 
Title: Re: Mono-Black Vamp 'control'
Post by: Guitello on September 01, 2012, 11:47:32 PM
Even {Rakish Heir} is a somewhat slow card