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W/G Humans 60 cards, 15 sideboard 1 {Ghost Quarter} 4 {Sunpetal Grove} 2 {Gavony Township} 2 {Razorverge Thicket} 7 {Plains} 5 {Forest} 21 lands 1 {Angelic Overseer} 1 {Hero of Bladehold} 3 {Grand Abolisher} 2 {Gideon's Lawkeeper} 2 {Mikaeus, the Lunarch} 3 {Mirran Crusader} 4 {Champion of the Parish} 3 {Mayor of Avabruck} 4 {Avacyn's Pilgrim} 23 creatures 4 {Titanic Growth} 4 {Honor of the Pure} 4 {Sword of War and Peace} 4 {Oblivion Ring} 16 other spells Sideboard 4 {Fiend Hunter} 4 {Revoke Existence} 2 {Timely Reinforcements} 1 {Ghost Quarter} 2 {Purify the Grave} 2 {Surgical Extraction} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

{Dearly Departed}

How about {Spare from Evil}? With a playset of them and with your aggro creature base you could win in one attack in the best case scenario.

And I know the mana curve is a little big for this deck, but I personally would feel guilty if I didn't put {Angelic Overseer} in if this were my deck. However, I have no clue what to exchange if you were to put it in.  ðŸ˜,,

{Spare from Evil} = discovered new tech. Thanks, Spikepit!

The deck looks great. I would add more {Elspeth Tirel}.

I have a set of {spare from evil} I can add, but the mana cost of the other cards feels a little high. I could spend  the 5 mana on 1 guy, or add 2-3 more that all get boosts. It would be tough to make room for a big card. I am consistently winning the game by round 5 or sooner with all these weenies.

I would drop down to two {gavony townships}.  You don't want to get stuck with too many of them on the field. 

I think a {grand abolisher} or two would play well against some o the other standard decks in rotation right now as well.

Quote from: Deeliser10 on December 31, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
I think a {grand abolisher} or two would play well against some o the other standard decks in rotation right now as well.

I agree on the {grand abolisher}, I just haven't found any yet. With the {Gavony Township}, do you think it would be better to put two basic lands in or two more creatures? I am still working on how to do good land ratios.

The deck looks great!

Quote from: Prophylaxis on December 31, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
The deck looks great!

The deck really wins games fast and the only cards I would probably switch out would maybe be the automations for something (like {grand abolisher} or {spare from evil}). And I may trade out one of the {gavony township} as well for something, just not sure which one yet.

Not a huge fan of the automatons. I'd agree with the abolisher.

Personally, if I were in your shoes (which would be strange as I don't generally play with shoes on) I would take out two {Gavony Township} to replace with one of each basic, take out at least 2 {Adaptive Automaton} and replace with {Spare from Evil}s AND if the third Automaton were to to be given the boot, I'd put in a {Butcher's Cleaver}.

But that's just me, I often realize I have added cards to a deck purely for the art work or flavour, the tech of those cards not necessarily being cohesive to the deck, but just lookin cool. 😏

Besides, as Proph said, the deck looks pretty good already. 🍻

Quote from: Spikepit on December 31, 2011, 06:56:23 PM
Personally, if I were in your shoes (which would be strange as I don't generally play with shoes on) I would take out two {Gavony Township} to replace with one of each basic, take out at least 2 {Adaptive Automaton} and replace with {Spare from Evil}s AND if the third Automaton were to to be given the boot, I'd put in a {Butcher's Cleaver}.

But that's just me, I often realize I have added cards to a deck purely for the art work or flavour, the tech of those cards not necessarily being cohesive to the deck, but just lookin cool. 😏

Besides, as Proph said, the deck looks pretty good already. 🍻

I am going to remove one {gavony township} and the {adaptive automations} for 2 {spare from evil}s and 2 {grand abolisher}s

Fine selection, sir.

Quote from: Alaskanice on December 31, 2011, 04:50:33 PM

Quote from: Prophylaxis on December 31, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
The deck looks great!

The deck really wins games fast and the only cards I would probably switch out would maybe be the automations for something (like {grand abolisher} or {spare from evil}). And I may trade out one of the {gavony township} as well for something, just not sure which one yet.

You can never have to many {Hero of Bladehold}s (unless you have 5 or more, that is too many ;) ). She is an all star and pairs nicely with {Mentor of the Meek}.

Quote from: Alaskanice on December 31, 2011, 07:55:55 PM

Quote from: Spikepit on December 31, 2011, 06:56:23 PM
Personally, if I were in your shoes (which would be strange as I don't generally play with shoes on) I would take out two {Gavony Township} to replace with one of each basic, take out at least 2 {Adaptive Automaton} and replace with {Spare from Evil}s AND if the third Automaton were to to be given the boot, I'd put in a {Butcher's Cleaver}.

But that's just me, I often realize I have added cards to a deck purely for the art work or flavour, the tech of those cards not necessarily being cohesive to the deck, but just lookin cool. 😏

Besides, as Proph said, the deck looks pretty good already. 🍻

I am going to remove one {gavony township} and the {adaptive automations} for 2 {spare from evil}s and 2 {grand abolisher}s

Don't remove land! Keep it at 22 at least man.

Quote from: BrokenPillar on December 31, 2011, 08:10:55 PM

Quote from: Alaskanice on December 31, 2011, 04:50:33 PM

Quote from: Prophylaxis on December 31, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
The deck looks great!

The deck really wins games fast and the only cards I would probably switch out would maybe be the automations for something (like {grand abolisher} or {spare from evil}). And I may trade out one of the {gavony township} as well for something, just not sure which one yet.

You can never have to many {Hero of Bladehold}s (unless you have more than 5, that is too many ;) ). She is an all star and pairs nicely with {Mentor of the Meek}.

True, but who would I trade out for it at this point?

I would say put in another Plains for the Township

With the low cost of most of my cards I have done well with only having 21 mana in this deck in the past, in fact the majority o my losses have come from drawing too many mana... And with the 4 pilgrims it looks like it can do well as is.

That's true, well if the results are showing that it works, go for it man!

Quote from: BrokenPillar on December 31, 2011, 08:10:55 PM

Quote from: Alaskanice on December 31, 2011, 04:50:33 PM

Quote from: Prophylaxis on December 31, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
The deck looks great!

The deck really wins games fast and the only cards I would probably switch out would maybe be the automations for something (like {grand abolisher} or {spare from evil}). And I may trade out one of the {gavony township} as well for something, just not sure which one yet.

You can never have to many {Hero of Bladehold}s (unless you have 5 or more, that is too many ;) ). She is an all star and pairs nicely with {Mentor of the Meek}.

Maybe a third, but again, even a 4 MC is  expensive for this deck, and I don't want many of those.

I would go with {Silver-Inlaid Dagger}. The damage output is insane.

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 01, 2012, 03:03:31 AM
I would go with {Silver-Inlaid Dagger}. The damage output is insane.

That is a beautiful card in this deck for sure!

Imagine {silver-inlaid dagger} equipped to {mirran crusader} any questions?

I love the look of surprise when I hit someone for 10 by turn 4 with a {mirran crusader} and the handy dandy {silver inlaid dagger}

Since I don't see any, Swords would be good.

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 01, 2012, 02:00:19 PM
Since I don't see any, Swords would be good.

I don't know why, but I have been hesitant to put equipment in this deck. I can see how equipping a {mirran crusader} would be fun, bit who would I remove to do it?

Equipment isn't really needed, looking at the decklist.

Wraths in board will help.

Quote from: cltrn81 on January 01, 2012, 10:21:36 AM
Imagine {silver-inlaid dagger} equipped to {mirran crusader} any questions?

I read your quote and instantly thought:
http://www.google.com.au/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=au&client=safari&q=you%20mad%20bro&sa=N#i=7

And I know you're struggling to find things to swap out, but maybe some {Titantic Growth}s may be a substitute if you don't want equipment, saving them until your little sneaky 1/1s are unblocked and then ✨ðŸ'¢âœ¨ your Avacyn Priest is thre stories tall!

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 01, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
Equipment isn't really needed, looking at the decklist.

Wraths in board will help.

What wraths are you talking about?

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 03, 2012, 03:25:05 AM

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 01, 2012, 02:50:29 PM
Equipment isn't really needed, looking at the decklist.

Wraths in board will help.

What wraths are you talking about?

{Day of Judgment} for one, I think Green may have a couple, Idk.

Sigh, I don't know why, but I don't really like {day of judgement},
But I do see it's usefulness...

Go with DoJ. You can sandbag creatures in hand and get rid of W/G tokens etc.

Is it just me, or is no one playing {Elite Vanguard} or {Alabaster Mage} in Standard human decks?  Are they not good enough to make the cut?

I think there are just better one and two drops in white right now.

Why use {elite vanguard} when there is {champion of the parish}, {Gideon's Lawkeeper}, and {avacyn pilgrim} for 1 drops. Then you add all the good 2 drops and there really isn't a place for it.

True, true.  I guess the Vanguard is outclassed right now.

I've seen some nasty combinations with him though, 1st turn {elite vanguard}, 2nd turn {bonds of faith} and swings for 4. It puts you in a bad spot in my experience

Just curious, is there a card I can add to my mainboard to deal with RDW or do I just sideboard something in for round two?

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 09, 2012, 01:36:21 PM
Just curious, is there a card I can add to my mainboard to deal with RDW or do I just sideboard something in for round two?

{Sylvok Lifestaff}?

EDIT: No, that's bad. {Timely Reinforcements}

Quote from: Prophylaxis on January 09, 2012, 09:12:25 PM

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 09, 2012, 01:36:21 PM
Just curious, is there a card I can add to my mainboard to deal with RDW or do I just sideboard something in for round two?

{Sylvok Lifestaff}?

EDIT: No, that's bad. {Timely Reinforcements}

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And I just saw that increasing devotion card from the DA spoiler which looks like it could be fun to add as well.

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 10, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
And I just saw that increasing devotion card from the DA spoiler which looks like it could be fun to add as well.

And I just saw that undead apocalypse card from the DA spoiler which looks like it could be bad to add as well.

Joking, jokin'

So, i am debating removing my green guys and just splashing both green and blue for {gavony township}, mana leak, and {Geist of Saint Traft}. Would that work, or would I be spreading myself out too thin in trying that?

I've seen it done before but the mana base is tricky with its balance, if you added birds of paradise it might be easier

Alright, I guess I will test it out with different amounts of mana until I get it right. I have enough dual lands to test this, so let's see how it goes!

I have now modified my deck some (added {honor of the pure} and {sword of war and peace} while removing my {mentor of the meek}). Do you have any other advice on what to change?

Quote from: Alaskanice on January 15, 2012, 06:24:12 PM
I have now modified my deck some (added {honor of the pure} and {sword of war and peace} while removing my {mentor of the meek}). Do you have any other advice on what to change?

Is {Mikaeus, the Lunarch} good?

Good deck. I would wait until Dark Ascension to see what shakes up Humans.

Fair enough, and he is a pretty good card, I have used him a couple of times to bring my guys up 2 counters.