When do you declare targets? For instance my friend played a {oblivion ring} onto my {phantasmal image} and then I countered it. Does that mean my phantasmal image dies? The way I looked at it was oblivion ring doesn't target until it ETB so me countering it means it doesn't?
Also as a side note when you cast something that has a ETB target do you declare it when you cast it or when it ETB?
U declare target once it resolves and etb. So o ring does not target until it hits the field. So he can't target your image with it if it never resolved.
Quote from: Poof on August 25, 2012, 07:17:43 AM
U declare target once it resolves and etb. So o ring does not target until it hits the field. So he can't target your image with it if it never resolved.
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Quote from: Poof on August 25, 2012, 07:17:43 AM
U declare target once it resolves and etb. So o ring does not target until it hits the field. So he can't target your image with it if it never resolved.
This is correct for {Oblivion Ring}. Normally, targets are declared for a spell as it's put on the stack, meaning a {phantasmal image} or other illusion is doomed even if the spell is countered because it was already targeted. But because O-Ring doesn't target until it resolves, you can counter it before it gets to target.
This is the same reason why O-Ring works on {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}. It's no longer a spell when it targets, it resolved and is now a permanent instead.