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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Bleakone on August 22, 2012, 05:06:03 AM

Title: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Bleakone on August 22, 2012, 05:06:03 AM
If I attacked with a double strike trample and opponent blocked with first strike deathtouch what happens? I know they both deal their first strike damage to each other, but does my creature die before the normal damage is done?
Happened tonight. I attacked with 10/10 double strike trample, opponent blocked with 7/7 first strike deathtouch. Does 3 damage go through or 13? Thanks
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Poof on August 22, 2012, 05:20:31 AM
3 deathtouch kills him before normal combat damage can be dealt
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Ghebert on August 22, 2012, 08:50:45 AM
Only the first strike damage would happen here. So you would assign 7 damage to the death touch creature. Then all damage happens at once. And 3 damage would go through to the opponent. The normal wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Fenster on August 22, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
I dont know why but in DotP Dubblestrike beats first strike.
I have no idea if this is wrong or actually the rule.
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Ghebert on August 22, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Fenster on August 22, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
I dont know why but in DotP Dubblestrike beats first strike.
I have no idea if this is wrong or actually the rule.

It depends on each creatures P/T.  If a 3/3 double strike is blocked by a 2/6 first strike, then the 2/6 would die. It's all about the P/T. But if that 2/6 had deathtouch, the double strike would die.

First strike deals damage once. Double deals twice; first strike damage AND normal combat damage.
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: scarsabrex on August 22, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
and ghebert has it nailed down. somebody bring a gavel because this case is RESOLVED.
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Greg54js on August 22, 2012, 11:28:26 AM
Title: Re: Double strike trample vs first strike deathtouch
Post by: Ghebert on August 22, 2012, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on August 22, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
and ghebert has it nailed down. somebody bring a gavel because this case is RESOLVED.

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