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Title: Imtg community
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 21, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
 Now I know it takes all kinds, and it obviously doesn't go for everyone. But geeze it just seems like everyone here is just so much more cordial than in person.
I haven't been getting many hits for trades up here lately so I've been Trolling in shops lately... But I really can't find anyone nice to sit down with, everyone's always trying to rip you or, "I don't value it at that" kinda crap.. I kinda went with it yesterday because I don't want to buy anything but I kinda regret it now. I traded my {bonfire of the damned} for a {cavern of souls} a {tibalt the fiend blooded} and {birds of paradise}

But really i lost out there..

The only happy thing was I randomly saw three packs at the bottom of an open box so I was like what the hey, got them, and hit {liliana of the dark realms}
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: smokin terry on August 21, 2012, 09:50:10 AM
That sucks man about trading. Thee was one guy the alway put his on the high end and didn't do the same for any one else's. I've pretty much gotten to the point that I'll flat out say no unless they need help or are respectful and nice. I'm fine taking a small lose on a trade.

Nice pull too by the way.
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 21, 2012, 09:52:58 AM
Ya my local store is spammed with little kids and rude ones at that. I play casual and wanted a casual game. They'd agree but then I warned them that my decks are semi legacy in that the cards are from all sets. He looks at me and says " well wheres the fun in that? Standard is better" and walks away.
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: Greg54js on August 21, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
Standard sucks!! I'd play casual anyday over standard.
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 21, 2012, 09:59:42 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on August 21, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
Standard sucks!! I'd play casual anyday over standard.
I know right? And another kid complained when I beat him how unfair it was that my decks have a bigger variety. I was like "I warned you in advance. It's a casual game. I'm not that competitive. We can try it again?" and the kid starts huffin and puffin. I wish I could go blow his house down! I HATE STANDARD AND SNOBBY KIDS!
Honestly, the kids that are there probably don't even pay for their own stuff. Mommy and daddy front the money or use their allowance. I never had an allowance.

Rage rant over.
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: TheRecklessPlaneswalker on August 21, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
EDH....?
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: Thorn on August 21, 2012, 10:03:37 AM
I play edh and standard and I'm starting legacy. So whatever you want I play!
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 21, 2012, 10:06:54 AM
Yeah thanks guys, that's kinda the response I expected on here.

Yeah I don't know why standard players are like that, I try to have a variety of decks so I can play with a variety of people even being a primarily standard player.

I guess I'm just kinda aggravated because while I knew I needed a cavern I was kinda hoping to use that bonfire to pull at least 2 of the new Lilys.

Oh well, cèst la vie

Yeah I was pretty jacked about my pull thanks!

Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 21, 2012, 10:57:21 AM
I would call myself a standard player right now, but I don't mind facing casual decks...it just gives me more of a reason to be happy when I beat them.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: izik99 on August 21, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
My friend keeps on bugging me to make a standard deck, so i just made one to keep him queit.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Wackaman9001 on August 21, 2012, 11:10:19 AM
I hate when people refuse to trade off value and the only person I ever trade off value to is my brother, and then it's still in the family so I don't mind
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: ChrisRodriguez on August 21, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
I'm a standard player myself. I mostly trade for need. And I trade for even value, but mostly I lose out on a few dollars on trades. (i.e. I traded a SoWaP for a snapcaster and 1 sulfur falls a while back when SoWaP was around 35-40 and the snapcaster and sulfur falls was about 30 together at the time). As far as games I will play against a casual player any day. It's fun. I have played my standard UW delver against a legacy Stoneblade deck. I lost bad, but I kept playing. I don't understand players any more. They seem to be to uptight and stingy. They need to learn how to have fun.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Brandalog on August 21, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
I play standard 99% of the time. I did play edh. But got bored cause
I only got to play with
Y friends and the same decks over and over. I'll play against casual decks no problem, but I prefer standard just because I don't know many other cards since the zendikar and shards blocks.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 21, 2012, 11:26:37 AM
Yeah I want to think most players are willing to play together no matter what format, it just seems like there's an elitist group like within Yugioh as well...

I knew I was taking the hit.. I just don't know why I didn't stop an just let it pass... Oh well

For some reason I don't handle expensive cards well. I'm luck I have the standard playsets of planes walkers I have still hopefully I don't screw up or sell it all, money is my biggest weakness lol
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 21, 2012, 01:18:58 PM
Wow that was quite a read after just waking up. You've all made me feel very lucky.

When i started it was at a small game shop where the te top people that weren't jerks played to avoid the jerks. They helped me out a lot when i started and i never understood why until i was in their shoes. Top players don't open packs outside of releases, so they encourage new players to stick around and enjoy the game so that they'll open up packs and bring more value to the local trading. This of course is only the way the nice top players think, the jerks stomp kids (calling them a bye) and move on.

I'm more thankful now, than ever before that i had good mentorship. Thank you all.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 21, 2012, 06:23:51 PM
That was a delightful post, I played competitive yuguoh for 8 years and I must say the people are much worse
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Blaze2100 on August 21, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
In my experience, standard is for noobies. In new York I had 15 coworkers who played, and I wa the only person with cards older than innistrad -_-. I told them I've been playing for years, I have a ton of cards, I don't want to invest more money just to play standar with them. They quickly learned to love the variety in old cards. I just moved to San Diego 3 months ago and I having a hard time finding people who play casual outside of edh or turn 1 win  legacy decks. I'd rather play the turn 1 decks over the standard player who looks down on casual
Title: Re: Imtg
Post by: Silent1236 on August 21, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on August 21, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
Standard sucks!! I'd play casual anyday over standard.

Same here!  I've always kinda hated standard 
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Thorn on August 21, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
I mainly am a standard player but I have a edh, legacy, and a few casual decks and I like them all equally.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: #noided on August 21, 2012, 07:53:46 PM
Standard. More like. Blandard.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Wackaman9001 on August 21, 2012, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: Thorn on August 21, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
I mainly am a standard player but I have a edh, legacy, and a few casual decks and I like them all equally.
Variety is the spice of life :)
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Safira008 on August 21, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
I'm lucky enough to live around a college town with a relatively small gaming shop called the wizard's guild. Every time I go in there, there's someone willing to play-employees and patrons alike- who help me learn the rules of the game (I'm still a beginner) and give me improvement tips.
In that store we use Star City prices, and when I pulled a Cavern of Souls from my first new card pack, one of the guys in there offered me a look through his trade binder for cards up to worth of about $30, even though now I see its worth perhaps $25. He really helped expand my collection so that I could trade with people for cards I'd actually like to use in my red burn casual deck haha
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Cindjor on August 22, 2012, 01:51:46 AM
People overrate winning too much which is why I think they're so uptight. I don't mind losing if I figured out why I lost and just keep playing more games.


I stopped playing for 8 years and most of my cards are from ice age, tempest and urza block so I'm used to old cards. I'm fascinated by the new cards and all the synergy. I don't even feel like going to FNM because of the lack of standard cards I have.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Wally on August 22, 2012, 03:35:17 AM
To be honest I mainly play at our local FNM, and yes, its standard.
I really enjoy that in our group new players can start up and have access to the same cards that are being played by everyone else.
We do sometimes get the opportunity to play legacy or extended, or even commander / planechase nights, but usually it's standard.
In our group of around 15-20 people, no one really takes it all too seriously and a lot of us usually rotate thru a few decks each week to keep things interesting and the matches different. Because of this, our meta isn't overrun with one particular type of deck and everyone pretty much has to be ready for anything.

Also our prizes system helps the new players just as much as the more seasoned.
Depending on how many players there are for a night, so many boosters are opened and layed out on the table. The winner picks his first choice and then on thru the pack till the last player picks theirs, this continues 3 or 4 times, and then the rest are shuffled back into a pack and dealt out in piles for each person to pick up, again in order.
Depending on who is there, new players will get some really good suggestions from more seasoned players, and if they need a particular card people will often pick a good card for them from their pick and give it to them to help them out.

Anyways, our group usually plays for fun. It's great. Standard or otherwise. :)
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 22, 2012, 03:38:53 AM
Damn, a lot of players be hatin on standard! I myself like it. ^^
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Brandalog on August 22, 2012, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 22, 2012, 03:38:53 AM
Damn, a lot of players be hatin on standard! I myself like it. ^^

I like it as well, idk why but I just like the competitiveness of it. But while still being able to have fun x)
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 22, 2012, 10:51:55 AM
What a lot of people fail to notice is that a lot of the "fresh" new standard/magic players have no interest in anything but standard.

Let me explain. They are the refugees from other card games (especially, in particular Yu-Gi-Oh) where there are no casual variants, and when you play, there is no variety.

I played competitive regional, pro tour level yugioh for 8 years. And in doing so I probably spent enough to purchase a playset of black lotus.

I only played magic casually until this year, and to be honest, the restrictions of standard is sometimes what appeals to new players. They want that closed edge to compete with people at a still high level, without all the op cards.

In most other card games, you play 1 maybe 2 decks. You spend buttloads of money. And playing ends up being a work of habit. I can only see the playpool getting larger for magic in the future
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Millionlittlee on August 22, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
I'm way to new for non-standard games but I like casual and I'll play anything that doesn't have a main win factor in turn 1

But my favorite format would have to be block don't ask me why
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Harmon74 on August 22, 2012, 09:05:04 PM
I'm an old dog.  I play type 2, not standard.  Lol.  I'm really just getting back in to mtg.  I love playing standard/type 2.  I really like the competitiveness of it.  Ive been playing a R/U Delver deck since I've gotten back into mtg.  I haven't placed real high, but I have fun!  The deck is so fast, and has so many different ways to play it, board control, aggro, control, burn.  Idk.  I just like it.  I know a lot of people hate on Delver, but it's an awesome critter.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: izik99 on August 22, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on August 22, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
I'm way to new for non-standard games but I like casual and I'll play anything that doesn't have a main win factor in turn 1

But my favorite format would have to be block don't ask me why

Whats block? Is it where you can only play from the most recent block, so roght now you could only play from Innistrad, Dark Ascension, and Avacyn Restored?
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: DirtyMustachio on August 22, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Quote from: KangaRod on August 22, 2012, 11:24:08 PM
I am convinced I am getting old because old people used to tell me I was so rude and I used to think they were just old... Now I think that the kids are so rude

Crap.. Your logic works with me to...
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Mikefrompluto on August 23, 2012, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: Harmon74 on August 22, 2012, 09:05:04 PM
I'm an old dog.  I play type 2, not standard.  Lol.  I'm really just getting back in to mtg.

When I picked Magic back up after a 10 year hiatus, I was like "Standard? What's that?.....Oh you mean Type 2?" Hahahah.

I'm down to play anything but I prefer standard. Just because I had to start over with my collection and those are the only cards I have. 

And I'm 24 and definitely dislike most of the kids younger than me.
Title: Re: Imtg community
Post by: Milo109 on August 23, 2012, 09:57:45 AM
I actually love standard but hate my playing group. A friend of mine got second in draft, and they agreed to split. However he had gotten a bye, so the person who got 3rd wanted the extra pack. This was the first time that my friend had played magic at this place. He did just play it out and won easily. And again, everyone who trades there under values your cards by 10-20% while valuing theirs at starcitygames prices.