So I'm listening to Monday night magic, and they are talking about some big tourney. Where a player took 101st place using a battle wits/birthing pod deck, the deck list is on starcitygames.
Taking a 101 finish out of a couple of hundred in standard
Did the same in legacy.
TL/DR. Home brewing can be competitive.
Bow is cool but it will never win a standard pro tour.
Tourneys like this maybe however straight up burn or mill will beat it and since you really only have one win-con you are vanurable.
101st with the worst deck ever? I feel bad for those other guys. Was it 101/102? 1 guy DQ'd?
{Battle of Wits} is, and always will be, horrible. It's only period of viability was odyssey when it had more tutors. Even then it was terrible.
It's the single worst card to draft, undoubtedly. It is absolutely the worst rare in this set, and it is a total buzz kill to open a pack and see this card.
Wizards should really be ashamed of reprinting this. It took the spot of a card infinitely cooler, which is anything.
I was so mad when I pulled this as the rare in a booster. Worthless.
Was my stick once. I also got one from picks to humor myself
{Vizzerdrix} is a better rare. Because he does something. It's cooler to win with a {Vizzerdrix}, and more insulting, then dropping a stupid {Battle of Wits}.
I get it's a "different" wincon, cool... Useless. There is a gigantic stack of at least 50 {Battle of Wits} at my LGS, all undrafted.
You ladies and gentleman have no sense of adventure. {battle of the wits} is meant for fun and group play. Im sorry that wizard prints stuff for everyone instead of just for you. I hope you realize magic doesnt revolve around you.
I'm willing to accept inferior cards on behalf of Timmy's. There are plenty of those in this set too (see: {Trading Post}, {Door to Nothingness}). {Battle of Wits} has gone too far.
Quote from: Tetsomori on August 12, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
You ladies and gentleman have no sense of adventure. {battle of the wits} is meant for fun and group play. Im sorry that wizard prints stuff for everyone instead of just for you. I hope you realize magic doesnt revolve around you.
Lol why you so serious dude?
Sounds like everyone else is just knocking battle of wits. Dunno what you're trying to say.
Quote from: Dudecore on August 12, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
I'm willing to accept inferior cards on behalf of Timmy's. There are plenty of those in this set too (see: {Trading Post}, {Door to Nothingness}). {Battle of Wits} has gone too far.
My friend topped 8 at 7 in a 60 person FNM with a {trading post} deck lol, also so a really good artifact control deck using them.
Quote from: Dudecore on August 12, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
I'm willing to accept inferior cards on behalf of Timmy's. There are plenty of those in this set too (see: {Trading Post}, {Door to Nothingness}). {Battle of Wits} has gone too far.
Too far? Wow.
It took a blue card out, and a rare card. They could have used the spot to debut the new rare version of {Mind Control}, because for drafting reasons MC is too powerful at uncommon. Or 1 billion other things
Timmy's get plenty of cards, so do spikes and everyone else. {Battle of Wits} already has its printed run, it has it's place in history. If its for "fun and adventure", then just use the Odyssey version, what's the purpose of reprinting it?
And by Timmy's I mean johnnies
Because sometimes they've got to print extremely polarizing cards. They get new players excited. They give Johnnies impossible hills to climb (the "I DARE you to build around me!" cards).
Lastly, because for every piece of 💩 card you don't like pulling makes every 💎 card shine brighter when you get it.
/soapbox
I think the idea of a {battle of wits} casual 4 player free for all game, could be interesting. Each player building their massive decks and see who can get it out first and win :D
Quote from: Wally on August 12, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
I think the idea of a {battle of wits} casual 4 player free for all game, could be interesting. Each player building their massive decks and see who can get it out first and win :D
If its so cool, then use the old version of it, and only standard cards.
And @BJ: that worse then selling sleeves and a life counter for $80...
Well, there's 248 other cards in the set for you to enjoy over :)
Wow, this took an unexpected turn. It's okay to hate on {battle of wits}. And it's okay to not. All I was try to do was get a conversation going that not everyone is building delver/wolf run decks.
Did this deck do great, no. But this person had the guts to try it out.
And I pulled a {battle of wits} during a sealed tourney. But I didn't bitch, I just tossed it into my {U} and kept going.
I don't like the card but I never said anything about Wizards revolving around me, and neither did anyone else knocking the card for that matter. I will agree that it's cool that someone built a deck around it and placed with it.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on August 12, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
And I pulled a {battle of wits} during a sealed tourney. But I didn't bitch, I just tossed it into my {U} and kept going.
Friend of mine pulled one at our sealed game and immediately tore it to pieces. He was not happy lol.
I got 2 {boundless realms}. best packs ever :P
Quote from: Dudecore on August 12, 2012, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: Wally on August 12, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
I think the idea of a {battle of wits} casual 4 player free for all game, could be interesting. Each player building their massive decks and see who can get it out first and win :D
If its so cool, then use the old version of it, and only standard cards.
And @BJ: that worse then selling sleeves and a life counter for $80...
That's different. I'm waiting to see the other foil cards included in that package.
I play BoW in Fnm, and a very competitive one at that. The trick with BoW decks is that it should be controlly with secondary win cons if you don't draw it. It wins quite consistently.
Quote from: Fishsticks123 on August 12, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
I play BoW in Fnm, and a very competitive one at that. The trick with BoW decks is that it should be controlly with secondary win cons if you don't draw it. It wins quite consistently.
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