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Title: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: BcBudds on August 10, 2012, 03:12:52 PM
Ok I have now tweaked the Jace deck I posted a few days ago with the ideas you all gave me. I know the sideboard for sure needs a bit of work still though, any ideas?

Jace Mill
Deck Remade

75 cards, 15 sideboard


16 {Island}
4 {Reliquary Tower}

20 lands


3 {Snapcaster Mage}
4 {Delver of Secrets}
4 {Jace's Phantasm}

11 creatures


4 {Visions of Beyond}
2 {Mindcrank}
2 {Unsummon}
2 {Thought Scour}
4 {Trepanation Blade}
4 {Jace, Memory Adept}
2 {Devastation Tide}
2 {Ring of Evos Isle}
2 {Index}
2 {Curse of the Bloody Tome}
2 {Essence Scatter}
1 {Otherworld Atlas}

29 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Curse of the Bloody Tome}
1 {Arcane Melee}
3 {Downpour}
2 {Dissipate}
2 {Index}
2 {Rewind}
2 {Negate}
1 {Temporal Mastery}
1 {Redirect}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: prayos on August 10, 2012, 03:20:47 PM
I would probably throw 1 or 2 {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} in there.  If you can pop off her ultimate, you'd be set.  Plus her +1 isn't too bad, and her -2 is pretty sweet if you've already got the Tower out.  But I could be talking out of my ass.
Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: BcBudds on August 10, 2012, 03:26:12 PM
Hm Tamiyo is interesting I'll post the tamiyo deck I did make, maybe I should use that one instead
Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: prayos on August 10, 2012, 03:28:40 PM
Honestly, me personally, and take this with a grain of salt cause I'm known to build really shitty decks, but I like Tamiyo in this deck rather than the other.  To me, her and Jace go hand in hand. 
Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: BcBudds on August 10, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Yeah tamiyo an jace would be great together I jus think there would have to be a bit more tweaking on my end to make them flow evenly, any ideas what would b good removed for tamiyo? Only thing I thinking is 2 jace for 2 tamiyo
Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: prayos on August 10, 2012, 03:50:53 PM
Maybe drop the Rings?  They just don't seem like they belong in a mill deck.  Again, typing out of my ass here, probably. And {Vapor Snag} > {Unsummon} if you can get them.
Title: Re: Jace Mill Deck Remade FNM
Post by: Dudecore on August 11, 2012, 12:22:20 AM
Mill isn't ready for FNM IMO. Not yet. With Mill you have to do some math. You're making your opponents life total 60 (well, 53 after a 7 card draw).

Compared to Burn (which deals life damage, which you start with 20).

"A typical Standard deck will be 60 cards, and by turn 4, your opponent will have drawn 10 of those cards. Our target will be to mill about 45-50 cards, so one {Mind Sculpt} is approximately 1/7 of their deck, or equivalent to an {Incinerate}."
(source: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=10581)

Return to Ravnica will set up the future for milling. Currently it won't win many games, and I've yet to encounter a Mill deck that really gave my any problems.

The problem with Milling is that it doesn't change to board state, and is truely unpredictable. My first hand will still be a good indication of my gameplan. This should probably be an article I'm writing, but i have been looking towards a strong mill deck for a very long time. Mill just doesn't have enough equivalents to burn cards.