Dredge Control

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Prophylaxis
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December 12, 2011, 09:57:42 PM
Used as an example of Dredge Control, requested by Drbusta50. Not an actual deck, but an outline.



Appleguru56
Member -1
December 13, 2011, 01:29:46 AM
Oh, a friend of mine ran a deck almost exactly the same as this one. It ran terribly because he could not get anything useful out of his deck. He pretty much ran the exact thing with bonehoards which didn't do anything since he can't get enough things in his graveyard.



Thattallguy
User 0
December 14, 2011, 12:06:51 AM
What about adding grimoire of the dead and cellar door to this deck. Could be useful. Once all of your creatures are in your GY bring them back with grimoire of the dead and you could use cellar door to discard a card every turn and put a zombie token onto the BF.



Appleguru56
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December 14, 2011, 12:33:52 AM
Quote from: Thattallguy on December 14, 2011, 12:06:51 AM
What about adding grimoire of the dead and cellar door to this deck. Could be useful. Once all of your creatures are in your GY bring them back with grimoire of the dead and you could use cellar door to discard a card every turn and put a zombie token onto the BF.

Grimoire is fine, but I do not see cellar door making in any deck. That card is simply too slow, plus mana inefficient. You pay 3 mana to maybe get a 2/2 on the battlefield.



BlackJester
Boss 100
December 14, 2011, 12:58:20 AM

Grimoire is fine, but I do not see cellar door making in any deck. That card is simply too slow, plus mana inefficient. You pay 3 mana to maybe get a 2/2 on the battlefield.

It can be a slow mill. I use it in a deck with Scry to put specific cards in my gy. I think it's more a combo piece.



Thattallguy
User 0
December 14, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Could be efficient with and or against an aggro deck. Odds are in it's favor it will discard a creature.



Appleguru56
Member -1
December 14, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Cellar door is a card that is extremely slow, I'm not talking about turn 10 here, but more like turn 20-30. At that time, cellar door is far outclassed and the effect will perhaps add 2-4 zombies that are likely to be dead at this point. When an opponent slaps a Titan (any one) then this deck will start to crumble without solid threats to fight back.



Prophylaxis
User+ 27
December 14, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
It has the Wurms and the Fright has huge beaters. This one is just a model - don't actually own the deck.



Appleguru56
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December 14, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Prophylaxis on December 14, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
It has the Wurms and the Fright has huge beaters. This one is just a model - don't actually own the deck.
These are not actually "huge beaters". These creatures will be more in the 3-5 power toughness range which puts them much behind other creatures (I keep using titans as examples)



BlackJester
Boss 100
December 14, 2011, 11:08:41 PM
*quietly waiting the the Titans to rotate out so I won't have to hear about them any more*



Appleguru56
Member -1
December 15, 2011, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on December 14, 2011, 11:08:41 PM
*quietly waiting the the Titans to rotate out so I won't have to hear about them any more*
Oh no, not only the titans. But other format defying cards such as olivia vordaren, Geist of saint traft, all the M12 plainswalkers, excetera......



BlackJester
Boss 100
December 15, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
[rant] Well, Olivia and Geist of St.Taft are dual colors, so at least they won't show up everywhere. Planeswalkers should be awesome and format defining. But the same Titans have been topping the charts since M11.

"Playing black?  Where's the four Grave Titans?"

Don't get me wrong, it's for good reason. They are powerhouses. I just don't like formats with so many "auto-Includes". Especially when it has been the exact same cards for two years.
[/rant]



Spikepit
Boss 100
December 15, 2011, 03:29:46 PM
👏hear hear!



BlackJester
Boss 100
December 15, 2011, 04:48:27 PM
Don't mind me, I'm just a crotchety old veteran.   >:( 



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