Relentless Rats!?!?!?!?

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BlackJester
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Do you have any mana acceleration? Dark Rituals, Cabal Rituals, Cabal Coffers, land search, things like that.



Alpha
User+ 0
November 16, 2011, 02:32:34 PM
Land search: He doesnt say yet that he will go to add green color in the deck, and dark rituals :S I don't see them in this decl, but cabals (if he will go to be mono black) it's a really good idea.
I think that in this deck are better continuously mana acelerators like artifacts or creatures (permanents), don't u think too?
And answer us, mono or bicolor?
PD: Again, sorry for my wrong English xDD



Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 02:37:23 PM by Alpha
BlackJester
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 02:52:47 PM
Well, if his focus is on Thrumming Stone + Relentless Rats, then he wants to get the Stone out ASAP.  Once it's in play, it's almost game ending, so if he can get 2 dark rits + Stone on turn one, if he casts a Rat on turn three, it's game over.



Mentonin
Boss 48
November 16, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
If u get 4 stones, u actually get to look the top 16 cards? And do this cards look other cards too?



BlackJester
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 03:13:29 PM
If u get 4 stones, u actually get to look the top 16 cards? And do this cards look other cards too?

Hold on, I'll check Ripple.

Edit:  Okay, so each instance of ripple will trigger separately.  So, if you have a Stone in play, when you cast a Relentless Rats, you would first look at the top 4 cards.  If you see any cards named Relentless Rats, you may cast them.  When you cast THOSE rats, they each will ripple 4... and so on and so on.

Now, let's say you have two Stones in play (Lucky!).  Cast a Rat.  Each ripple will trigger one at a time.  When the first trigger resolves, you look at the top four and cast and Rats you find.  Say you find two and cast them.  Then you would have 5 ripple 4s on the stack waiting to happen.  You only ever look at four cards at a time, but you would do it many many times.  Probably until you've cast every rat you own.

22 Relentless Rats in play = 22 23/23 creatures = 506 points of damage.  Trample is not a big deal any more.



Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 03:27:39 PM by BlackJester
Alpha
User+ 0
November 16, 2011, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on November 16, 2011, 02:52:47 PM
Well, if his focus is on Thrumming Stone + Relentless Rats, then he wants to get the Stone out ASAP.  Once it's in play, it's almost game ending, so if he can get 2 dark rits + Stone on turn one, if he casts a Rat on turn three, it's game over.
Right, I didn't think that xDD but it will be so good If it's a quasi full rentless deck.



Mentonin
Boss 48
November 16, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Ripple it will keep reaviling until no rats are found. Because ripple triggers when u play a card, and ripple's effect lets u play it, not put on the field. So u will actually look for 4 more cards each time you cast another rat, being it by ripple or not. So this is huge combo



Mentonin
Boss 48
November 16, 2011, 03:29:32 PM
Actually 22 23/23, as it is 2/2 with +21/+21. This means 506 dmg. If not blocked, ofc. Or mass removed. U could play an eldrazi monument and no big worries



BlackJester
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 03:37:42 PM
Actually 22 23/23, as it is 2/2 with +21/+21. This means 506 dmg. If not blocked, ofc. Or mass removed. U could play an eldrazi monument and no big worries

Thanks, I caught that too.  Corrected!



Mentonin
Boss 48
November 16, 2011, 03:44:52 PM
I imagine the dmg a Scalpelexis played with 2 dark rituals and an island turn 2 would do to this deck. Mill one shoted



Spikepit
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
And as a reaction to a Day of Judgement or Mass Clacify, I have (and suggest you get) a play set of Shattered Dreams. When someone wipes the battlefield of my 20+ Rats, I usually reply with 'Thank you' and a trollish grin, then cast this card.

Problem, bro?



Mentonin
Boss 48
November 16, 2011, 03:50:36 PM
Why would shattered dreams help?



Spikepit
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
WHOA!!! I apologize!!! I meant Shattered Crypt! That's the one. Phew. (I gotta stop multitasking 5 things at once!)😜



BlackJester
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 04:01:09 PM
I still like Patriarch's Bidding instead.  :P



Spikepit
Boss 100
November 16, 2011, 04:04:16 PM
I got some of those in mine also, both of them scream 'RUN AT ME!!!'



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