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Nowhere have I said E Fro deserved it more than the guy who made it. I said at that round he did because he had better breakers and was in second. I also said he had the right to ask for a concession but he shouldn't expect it.

Matteo, though I get your point, there is one point I feel I have to make.
Although I mentioned the splitting of prizes, which is my loose translation of his sentence "I wouldn't play someone who conceded to get me in top-8", the rule isn't limited to prizes or cash.

Literally, the tourney rules state ANY reward or incentive is out of line. This includes, in my view, "earning standing with Pro-players".
That's the point I felt was wrong, and is now backed up by the rules.

If one person gets in someone else doesn't, why is he more entitled than the person who got in because his opponent didn't concede

If you can tell me why the person who got in, instead of fro worked less hard than I'll agree with you.

Especially with the advantage 3 byes gets you.

Matteo, though I get your point, there is one point I feel I have to make.
Although I mentioned the splitting of prizes, which is my loose translation of his sentence "I wouldn't play someone who conceded to get me in top-8", the rule isn't limited to prizes or cash.

Literally, the tourney rules state ANY reward or incentive is out of line. This includes, in my view, "earning standing with Pro-players".
That's the point I felt was wrong, and is now backed up by the rules.

Fair but it's not like E Fro went to the table and said scoop to me trust me you want to be in good with us pros lol

Also Falcon fair enough but he deserves those byes

Er like the byes discredits the whole fighting the way to the top thing to. Sure you earned them, that's why they're there. Even with the standing of that round, I think it's a disjustice to all the players to assume on a case by case basis, oh you should scoop to me this round because you'll make it anyway and I have the best breakers.
Really when it's like, oh we're all going to be the only ones who make it anyway, that is the only time that it makes sense to me, as a time saver. I don't care who is potentially second in the breakers for that round, obv after that round your not if you lost.
So freaking win or shut up.
I don't have a problem with him asking, what I have a problem with is this connotation of wrongness he feels or anyone defending him feels for him not having got the concession.

Like really!? Okay tell that to the guy who got the 8th spot and worked his butt off if you re-write the story and fro go the 8th space instead, would we be reading a taletell story about how he's sad he didn't get it because someone else made a concession and he got pushed out?
Anyway that's my 2cents

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the way I understand things, the whole 'he got paired up' argument is invalid. I was under the impression that every round the pairings are random in each specific score bracket with the only filter being that you haven't already played that person. Only in the final round is it paired in leaderboard order. I am positive that is how it works, but welcome anyone who can prove me wrong and give me a better understanding.

I think it goes by breakers.

Also Dirty this whole thread I've defended E Fro like this: he has every right to ask and every right to be upset but he should have never expected the concession. If he gets it great free hour to relax if he doesn't he should've saddled up and won. Sadly for him he didn't. He over reacted but missing a GP Top 8 gets ppl salty

I think it goes by breakers.

Also Dirty this whole thread I've defended E Fro like this: he has every right to ask and every right to be upset but he should have never expected the concession. If he gets it great free hour to relax if he doesn't he should've saddled up and won. Sadly for him he didn't. He over reacted but missing a GP Top 8 gets ppl salty

I feel like he got 3 "free" hours by getting 3 byes at the beginning of the tournament. Sure he "earned" the byes but he still got to come in at an extremely favorable position.

Fair but still it's 2 full days of MTG. It takes its toll

Fair but still it's 2 full days of MTG. It takes its toll

Yes, it takes its toll, especially on normal tournament goers without byes... I'd argue less so for the pros who do it every weekend. ;-)

You had a sable army though doesn't count lol

You know... Like working 7 days a week 8 hours a day takes a toll.. Wait I'd rather play magic for money

Well to be fair E Fro didn't make his money in magic he used to be (might still be) a Pro Poker Player I think he has a couple bracelets

If E Fro didnt cry, none of this would have mattered. His crying and singling out his opponent and implying he wouldnt be welcomed so easily to the pro community after this action is what makes E Fro an entitled douche.

Plus look how he dresses, college frat boy FTL

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I like this response.