Fast Food Gone Rogue

Workers in major fast food chains protesting the low wages and demanding 15 dollars an hour.  Workers quitting McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, and Chickfile (?).  Major cities effected.

What are you thoughts

Since they quit on their own volition, then more power to 'em. Fast food promotes obesity and poor diets, so I could care less if they go under.

$15 is way too much for unskilled labor.

This is why you go to college, kids. You don't want to be the one complaining that you don't make enough running the fryers at a burger joint.

$15 is way too much for unskilled labor.

This is why you go to college, kids. You don't want to be the one complaining that you don't make enough running the fryers at a burger joint.

Not everyone is in the position to go to college. Family situations can require kids to go straight to work to pay for medical bills, etc. The protests are contending that the wages and practices of the fast food establishments don't actually provide enough to live off of. Minimum wage is due for an increase anyway, don't know if $15 is the appropriate new level though.

Quote from: #noided on July 29, 2013, 03:53:46 PM

$15 is way too much for unskilled labor.

This is why you go to college, kids. You don't want to be the one complaining that you don't make enough running the fryers at a burger joint.

Not everyone is in the position to go to college. Family situations can require kids to go straight to work to pay for medical bills, etc. The protests are contending that the wages and practices of the fast food establishments don't actually provide enough to live off of. Minimum wage is due for an increase anyway, don't know if $15 is the appropriate new level though.

The wages are not given to employees because they need them, but because they deserve them as payment for the services they provided to the employer, according to agreement both agreed to.

Minimum wage is 3rd party forcefully interfering between dealings of two willing parties, and thus illegal under iMtG law.

Quote from: ihasfrozen on July 29, 2013, 04:06:15 PM

Quote from: #noided on July 29, 2013, 03:53:46 PM

$15 is way too much for unskilled labor.

This is why you go to college, kids. You don't want to be the one complaining that you don't make enough running the fryers at a burger joint.

Not everyone is in the position to go to college. Family situations can require kids to go straight to work to pay for medical bills, etc. The protests are contending that the wages and practices of the fast food establishments don't actually provide enough to live off of. Minimum wage is due for an increase anyway, don't know if $15 is the appropriate new level though.

The wages are not given to employees because they need them, but because they deserve them as payment for the services they provided to the employer, according to agreement both agreed to.

So it is ok for those employees contend that they deserve higher wages for their services, right? That's what the movement/protest/whatever it's called seems to be about.

They've the right to protest. Fast food chains have the right not to pay them. I wish they'd go out of business, but the is neither here nor there.

$15/hour is ridiculously high for a fast food worker, I work as a painter for 11/hour, I'm pretty sure the fumes have almost destroyed my sense of smell and sometimes they make me hallucinate a little, if they deserve 15 for that job I deserve a lot more for mine

Omnivore's Dillema, a great book. Just saying, it could give you a whole new perspective on things.

In the time it took you to walk out that door to protest, they have taught  another person to come and do your job.

The truth of the matter is, at least in manhattan - most people will not come in to do that job. The cost of living is so high that you literally can't afford to take a $7.15 an hour job.

McDobalds will have to pay them $15 an hour,
then charge accordingly. Prices will double, people will stop going then they have to close. McDonald's, Wendy's and the likes shouldn't have stores in high value areas if they cannot keep them staffed and affordable.

Most other places in the country that is untrue. $13,000 a year is enough to live, and in some cases raise a family with another income.

It's simple economics really. If the employees cannot afford to live in the area given their wage, they can quit. If McDonald's cannot afford to provide a proper wage, they have to higher new people or close their stores.

As someone who works in fast food (delicatessen) making 8.50 l do fine. However that's with two roommates, and without them I'd honestly just barely be making it. At 20 I don't want to be doing this the rest of my life, I'll be going to a trade school.
 I do understand where people are coming from, even if I think 15 is way to high. We do work really hard, and deal with a lot of .poo., then not being able to make ends meet is just ridiculous.

Quote from: Piotr on July 29, 2013, 04:14:05 PM

Quote from: ihasfrozen on July 29, 2013, 04:06:15 PM

Quote from: #noided on July 29, 2013, 03:53:46 PM

$15 is way too much for unskilled labor.

This is why you go to college, kids. You don't want to be the one complaining that you don't make enough running the fryers at a burger joint.

Not everyone is in the position to go to college. Family situations can require kids to go straight to work to pay for medical bills, etc. The protests are contending that the wages and practices of the fast food establishments don't actually provide enough to live off of. Minimum wage is due for an increase anyway, don't know if $15 is the appropriate new level though.

The wages are not given to employees because they need them, but because they deserve them as payment for the services they provided to the employer, according to agreement both agreed to.

So it is ok for those employees contend that they deserve higher wages for their services, right? That's what the movement/protest/whatever it's called seems to be about.

Whether they deserve higher wages is up to both sides of the agreement. It requires the old agreement being terminated and new one signed. The old agreement need to be fulfilled first, obviously. For the employees the proper way to deal with it is to handle their notice to the employer, offering further services at new price. If employer agrees, fine, if not, find a new job. Strike is illegal under iMtG law as it breeches original agreement, in which employee agreed to work for agreed reimbursement until agreement is terminated.

Minimum wages should be around $15-$20/hr with the cost of living (in some areas)

I now see all demographics  of people acquiring jobs at fast food places. It's unfortunate that these are some of the only jobs available.

Everytime minimum wage goes up, so does unemployment. Companies cannot afford to hirer people if they're forced to pay them more. Also, minimum wage forces workers to accept salaries they may not desire. In some cases, if you'd prefer a lower salary in exchange for benefits - that isn't possible.