Well guys, we all know those touchy subjects that there are two extremes, and passivity. We have those extremes who support, and extremes who hate. Then the ones that don't care.
We have three sides, which one are you.
Our first touchy subject, is homosexual marriage, or homosexuality in general. We need a good political debate, because we haven't had one in awhile.
Please do not give negative karma because people are asserting their opinion.
I will not assert my opinion yet, I will wait for later in the debate. Please have fun!
Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 10:36:39 PM by Mikefrompluto
Love is love. People put too much importance on being married. i think it's being together that's important. If a couple wants to get married, then I say let them.
Being raised in a Christian family I was brought up to think it is a sin. However, knowing several people as freinds or neighbors and such, I don't feel as though I have the right to say "what you do or think is bad." The same could be said of me, I'm almost 21, I still live with my father. I work at most 30 hours a week and the major thing that I do all day is mast...I mean play video games. Now from another prospective, I'm a dead beat kid, going nowhere in life, still mooching off someone who loves me enough to treat me well. I'm a good kid, when I'm asked to mow the lawn, I may put it off for a couple days, but I do it in a reasonable amount of time. I don't drink or smoke, cigarettes or anything else, but I still have no plan. Now this has gotten a little off topic but my point remains, I don't have the right to tell anyone other than myself what is right and wrong. Plain and simple.
Who am I to say you can't love someone? Like it or not homosexuality had been seen in nature in primates and many other species, so don't give me the whole "unnatural" bolagna. You can also scream until your throat is hoarse about your bible, but the testament that contained said verses also tell you to stone kids to death, beat women, and offer whole oxes as sacrifice to your lord.
That being said I don't care for pride parades or huge homosexual movements, but like it was summed up so nicely earlier, love is love. I like everyone's response so far, awesome thread I'm thinking.
I say do what you want to do, it doesn't really concern me, if that's the way you are I respect that, this goes for many things in life; sexuality, religion, taste in music (that one I'm not so respectful on, I like to bash the genres I hate), etc. there are two kinds of people in this world, respectful and disrespectful, Anoobass brought up religion, being a respectful atheist I say he is free to believe what he wants, were I a disrespectful athiest I would probably tell him that he/his beliefs were stupid, it works both ways too, if he is disrespectful he may tell me that I'm going to hell because I don't believe in god or try to cram his religion down my throat (at which point I would become unpleasant), but respectfully each to his/her own, live how you want to live
Off topic, I'm not Christian, I was raised Christian, I don't follow it because I don't agree with certain things. My father does though so it is still a Christian household.
I've always been one of those kinds that just doesn't give a damn. I'm against gay marriage, but if it happens, oh well, not like I was going to stop it (or even try to) in the first place. I've always stayed away from news and .politics. because I don't want to be bothered by it. If something affects me, that's good to know. If not, why should I care? If gays are allowed to be married, it's not going to impede on my life, so whatever. I'll be unhappy about for a couple seconds and get over it. I realize that I'm coming across as a selfish hermit, but I gotta look at it realistically.
I'd like to think there's something between extreme and passive. I have family members and friends who are gay, and I care and believe that they deserve every single thing that I am able to do as a straight person, but I'd hardly call myself extreme. I care, and I have my beliefs, but I in no way disapprove of those who disagree with me. I may disagree with them, I may even flat-out dislike everything about it, but I have no right to make someone believe my way just because I like my way better.
Im athiest, and i guess im one of those people that support it, but at the same time doesnt really care, over here in australia im pretty sure its legal, but if im wrong, then oh well, lol.
Off topic, I'm not Christian, I was raised Christian, I don't follow it because I don't agree with certain things. My father does though so it is still a Christian household.
I was raised in a conservative Christian climate and that has shaped my moral and ethical adult views. It is because of my Christian moral views that I feel love and acceptance of homosexuals is paramount regardless of my or anyone else's views on their lifestyle. It is because of my Christian ethics that I feel the government has no place in this discussion (marriage has and should remain a social and religious agreement). I'm not sure if it is because of, or despite, my conservative heritage that I appreciate multiple sides to this issue. My views on gay rights aside, I am dismayed that many liberal acquaintances assume that an anti-homosexual stance is somehow morally reprehensible. Both sides have valid points but I hope (probably in vain) that in the rush to accept, liberals remember to show tolerance to those who are not comfortable with homosexuality.
I think all forms of bounding your life to another should be legal. As long as they both agree. I just don't agree with these bonds getting tax reductions, or any money reductions