Debate thread.

Because people have tendencies to turn everything into debates, this was moved and renamed. Have at it.

+1 for going out of your way to help the community, cool stuff

Thank ya! Im just doing my part as a mod to help make trading safer.

Why is it a sticky situation to post their address? I'm not sure I follow.

We don't know the legalities involved in each state/country when it comes to posting someone's address on a public forum without their consent, so we're avoiding it altogether. In some places, even if they did steal cards from you, posting their address without their consent can be considered harassment, and courts take that very seriously.

You know this could be over written with a disclaimer post under tradeing rules or what ever post is a list of rules for tradeing. All you would have to do is state that failure to complete a trade will result in your address being posted for vereafaction for other traders and by agreeing to trade in any form on this fourm through pm or standard post you agree to these terms of use. If you get pitor to post a must read trade rules thread under the trades section then it would trump any privacy laws in place because you are agreeing to the rules upon attempting trades. Or it could be put in to a disclaimer when you sign up to the site or app. Or something else you can do is post a name and street adress without a town or state it would be enough verafacion for people who have traded with that person as they will both have the full adress but for others it would not be enough info to be traced with out some leg work and at that point it puts the blame on the individual not the community.

Yeah, personally I was finished with trading when I got ripped and you guys seemed more concerned with hiding his address.
 
 I'm guessing this is your first forum? You can't be held responsible for what people post on here. He offered his address to me, and I posted his address publicly. If anyone could potentially get in trouble (they can't) it would be me.

 You yanks are always scared of getting sued.

You seem to be a person that always needs something to disagree with, no matter how trivial it is. Piotr doesn't want addresses to be publicly posted because it violates iMtG law. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say to you. We tried to come up with a solution to please everyone and you are still complaining about it.

Well...we could start enforcement teams in major areas. these people will relentlessly approach said untrustworthy traders and inquire why they aren't keeping their end of the deal. If they appear to live with their parents, then the parents shall be notified!

Enforcement teams are paid in standard staples for their time.

Well...we could start enforcement teams in major areas. these people will relentlessly approach said untrustworthy traders and inquire why they aren't keeping their end of the deal. If they appear to live with their parents, then the parents shall be notified!

Enforcement teams are paid in standard staples for their time.

That is a really bad idea its full blown harassment in certain states it could even be assault. My post b4 had a very sound solution to this issue but you guy's need to realize that it's Pitors fourm and if he says no we either live with it or go to a diffrent fourm. I don't agree with not posting the address and want to put these guys on the stand. But I respect Pitor and his wishes as should you.

Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 29, 2013, 03:47:01 PM

Well...we could start enforcement teams in major areas. these people will relentlessly approach said untrustworthy traders and inquire why they aren't keeping their end of the deal. If they appear to live with their parents, then the parents shall be notified!

Enforcement teams are paid in standard staples for their time.

That is a really bad idea its full blown harassment in certain states it could even be assault. My post b4 had a very sound solution to this issue but you guy's need to realize that it's Pitors fourm and if he says no we either live with it or go to a diffrent fourm. I don't agree with not posting the address and want to put these guys on the stand. But I respect Pitor and his wishes as should you.

99% sure muggy was being sarcastic

Quote from: Cal8301 on April 29, 2013, 04:26:18 PM

Quote from: Muggywuggy on April 29, 2013, 03:47:01 PM

Well...we could start enforcement teams in major areas. these people will relentlessly approach said untrustworthy traders and inquire why they aren't keeping their end of the deal. If they appear to live with their parents, then the parents shall be notified!

Enforcement teams are paid in standard staples for their time.

That is a really bad idea its full blown harassment in certain states it could even be assault. My post b4 had a very sound solution to this issue but you guy's need to realize that it's Pitors fourm and if he says no we either live with it or go to a diffrent fourm. I don't agree with not posting the address and want to put these guys on the stand. But I respect Pitor and his wishes as should you.

99% sure muggy was being sarcastic

More than likely but if he wasn't or if other people thought it was a good idea then we could have some weird situations on our hand. It only takes one retard to ruin it for everyone.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on April 29, 2013, 10:26:46 AM

You seem to be a person that always needs something to disagree with, no matter how trivial it is. Piotr doesn't want addresses to be publicly posted because it violates iMtG law. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say to you. We tried to come up with a solution to please everyone and you are still complaining about it.

If its so trivial than I should expect you to mail me the money I lost?

 The reason I seem to disagree with 'everything' is because so many people on this forum seemed to have latched on to ideals that makes Americans resented around the world without even realizing it, and frankly it's embarrassing to be associated with some of you sometimes.

Then don't associate with any of them. GTFO if you don't like how they do things.

Except I've paid money to be here

False.  You paid for the extra parts of the app.  You didn't pay a dime to join Gathering. 

Yup, gathering is free, extra decks, binders, Ext. are paid though.

See this situation could totally use a local enforcement team, we can get letterman jackets too!

his! we could be.. THE PLANESFORCERS