BW Heartless

4 Isolated Chapel
9 Swamp
9 Plains
2 Seachrome Coast
24 lands


2 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
4 Palladium Myr
4 Myr Superion
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Bloodgift Demon
4 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Spellskite
4 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
4 Fiend Hunter
1 Steel Hellkite
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Indomitable Archangel
32 creatures


4 Heartless Summoning
4 other spells


Sideboard


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More removal? Not an expert on the Heartless Summoning decks.

There are built in removals ie skinrender. massacre Wurm  perilous myr. And elesh.  Some of the ramp allows for some hard casting without the heartless,  but with heartless summoning in play, the deck can be punishing. 

I am not in love with the sunblast angel and have been considering tempered steel for creature boost and lilliana for some early game control.

I dunno, many o the creatures are removal too. I'm thinking a full set of the Solemn Simulacrums to get land, or dig into your deck if you don't get Heartless.

Maybe a steel hellkite or 2 for non creature removal too?

Maybe a steel hellkite or 2 for non creature removal too?

Might be a good outlet for late game mana, assuming it goes to late game.

So would ratchet bomb be a better play?

So would ratchet bomb be a better play?

Too slow. One of the problems I see for this deck is handling fatties. Ones that survive the -2/-2 or small damage from Perilous Myr. I was thinking Fiend Hunter in place of the Oblivion Rings so that you could go full creature. But OR is such a good removal spell because it can handle any permanent.

Quote from: Deeliser10 on December 23, 2011, 12:13:45 AM

So would ratchet bomb be a better play?

Too slow. One of the problems I see for this deck is handling fatties. Ones that survive the -2/-2 or small damage from Perilous Myr. I was thinking Fiend Hunter in place of the Oblivion Rings so that you could go full creature. But OR is such a good removal spell because it can handle any permanent.

What about the staple black removal spells - Doom Blade and Go for the Throat come to mind.

Are you set on having this be standard cause if not here
Nip Gwyllion  Havest Gwyllion  Divinity of Pride  Edge of the Divinity  Bloodied Ghost and for removal Unmake if you are keeping it standard then dont follow my advice.

Other than a few older cards from fourth edition, all of my collection is standard.  I like the fiend hunters.  Will try those and and construct a side board based on some of the issues.

Fiend Hunters would be awesome in this. I like it. What I imagine to be. I've had a friend who's wanted to do a BW Heartless just because of Elish Norn. I just personally prefer Massacre and Sheoldred.

So go down to 2 fiend hunters and 2skinrenders?

I'd keep the Skinrender. Go down to one Rune-scarred Demon?  Sideboard?

I was thinking you could side out the O-rings () for the Fiend Hunter.  Tag them
In if non-creatures (Planeswalkers, Lands, etc) are giving troubles.

So a true heartless deck should have all creatures with 4 heartless summonings and then a side board for other decks