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Piotr
User 100
August 11, 2013, 09:06:12 AM
Are patents possible under iMtG Law? Is the current US patent law compatible with iMtG Law?



That_Guy
User -11
August 11, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
I dont see why not...



Piotr
User 100
August 11, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
I believe that is legal under imtg law and US law



Piotr
User 100
August 11, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
I believe that is legal under imtg law and US law

Can you prove it though?



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
I believe that is legal under imtg law and US law

Can you prove it though?

Give me a couple mins and ill find you a resource :)



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 05:16:15 PM
What exactly is your concern?



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
Under Article One, Section 8(8 ) of the US Constitution,
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The Congress shall have power...To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

Based on this definition, you get a patent with a time limit, so I think you would be safe.



#noided
User 100
August 11, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?

They exist to protect the intellectual property of infividuals.They don't stop you from having the same ideas, but they do stop you from claiming them as your own and all the benefits that may come from them.



Piotr
User 100
August 11, 2013, 06:10:39 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?

They exist to protect the intellectual property of infividuals.They don't stop you from having the same ideas, but they do stop you from claiming them as your own and all the benefits that may come from them.

Sounds extremely unnatural to me. Just because somebody invented a wheel before me I have to pay him for the privilege of creating a wheel myself? Why? Ideas such as wheel are not created but discovered.



#noided
User 100
August 11, 2013, 06:16:06 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?

They exist to protect the intellectual property of infividuals.They don't stop you from having the same ideas, but they do stop you from claiming them as your own and all the benefits that may come from them.

Sounds extremely unnatural to me. Just because somebody invented a wheel before me I have to pay him for the privilege of creating a wheel myself? Why? Ideas such as wheel are not created but discovered.

No, you just have to create a different wheel than him.



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?

They exist to protect the intellectual property of infividuals.They don't stop you from having the same ideas, but they do stop you from claiming them as your own and all the benefits that may come from them.

Sounds extremely unnatural to me. Just because somebody invented a wheel before me I have to pay him for the privilege of creating a wheel myself? Why? Ideas such as wheel are not created but discovered.

No, you just have to create a different wheel than him.

Exactly, it is a little strange but you can find more info here. www.uspto.gov



Piotr
User 100
August 11, 2013, 07:48:15 PM
Perhaps because preventing me from having the same idea as yours is doing something I don't want to be done to me?

They exist to protect the intellectual property of infividuals.They don't stop you from having the same ideas, but they do stop you from claiming them as your own and all the benefits that may come from them.

Sounds extremely unnatural to me. Just because somebody invented a wheel before me I have to pay him for the privilege of creating a wheel myself? Why? Ideas such as wheel are not created but discovered.

No, you just have to create a different wheel than him.

Every wheel I create will be different. The idea of wheel is the same though.



EvACiDe
User 29
August 11, 2013, 07:57:12 PM
A wheel is a tougher example. Take a car engine for example. I get it patented, this protects my idea of THIS engine. Someone else is free to make a different engine such as with more cylinders, fuel injection etc.



Dudecore
Boss 100
August 11, 2013, 08:03:55 PM
In cases of things like wheels, they are not protected under any such copy rights. Also, there is a concept of "Common law copyright". It argues that copyright is a natural right and its creators are therefore entitled to the same protections anyone would be in regard to tangible and real property.

While I believe there is far too much silliness involved with patent trolling, especially involving patented bits of code that most couldn't possible use without infringing someone. Companies patenting programmers codes without them knowing. It serves to stifle innovation - in opposition to the spirit of the law (to motivate people to have new ideas).

The government shouldn't be involved, there should be common law and I believe those things must be protected. Piotr is right though, it isn't quite intuitive. But neither is something like a golf course. You took a whole bunch of land on the planet earth, and then said that its yours, and only for certain people to hit a ball into a hole...I understand its property, but something does not sit right with me.



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