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EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 05:53:37 PM
Well it's kind of like the wheel example we were previously discussing. And like you said, where is the line drawn? That's what I meant by grey areas.



Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth
User 100
August 12, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
(IMO) The main point of patent laws is to encourage research and betterment of products. If I were to invest a billion dollars into researching and developed a cure for cancer, it is only fair that I be the only one allowed to sell the cure for at least a few years so that I may recoup (or at least attempt to recoup) the billion dollars I invested. If I were not allowed a short period to recoup the money there would be no reason to invest the billions because I would end up losing money because all of my competitor's would sell the same product at lower prices (my price driven up by the size of the investment into research.)

That being said, patents are not compatible with iMTG Law because of the "Do not lie" and "Do not steal" rules, but are still very necessary in real life were one of the main devices used by law makers is deceit.



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
(IMO) The main point of patent laws is to encourage research and betterment of products. If I were to invest a billion dollars into researching and developed a cure for cancer, it is only fair that I be the only one allowed to sell the cure for at least a few years so that I may recoup (or at least attempt to recoup) the billion dollars I invested. If I were not allowed a short period to recoup the money there would be no reason to invest the billions because I would end up losing money because all of my competitor's would sell the same product at lower prices (my price driven up by the size of the investment into research.)

That being said, patents are not compatible with iMTG Law because of the "Do not lie" and "Do not steal" rules, but are still very necessary in real life were one of the main devices used by law makers is deceit.

The main point of socialism is to provide working man with better life. It brings misery instead, and enriches the crooks and lazy people. I don't care what the point of patent laws are, I'm interested in the practical result. The progress in medicine and many other areas is unsatisfactory, patents do not work.

No. it is not fair. It is only fair if you keep the secret of cure of cancer. Making it public and claiming that no one but you can produce it is pure evil.

Patents are not required.



Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth
User 100
August 12, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
(IMO) The main point of patent laws is to encourage research and betterment of products. If I were to invest a billion dollars into researching and developed a cure for cancer, it is only fair that I be the only one allowed to sell the cure for at least a few years so that I may recoup (or at least attempt to recoup) the billion dollars I invested. If I were not allowed a short period to recoup the money there would be no reason to invest the billions because I would end up losing money because all of my competitor's would sell the same product at lower prices (my price driven up by the size of the investment into research.)

That being said, patents are not compatible with iMTG Law because of the "Do not lie" and "Do not steal" rules, but are still very necessary in real life were one of the main devices used by law makers is deceit.

The main point of socialism is to provide working man with better life. It brings misery instead, and enriches the crooks and lazy people. I don't care what the point of patent laws are, I'm interested in the practical result. The progress in medicine and many other areas is unsatisfactory, patents do not work.

No. it is not fair. It is only fair if you keep the secret of cure of cancer. Making it public and claiming that no one but you can produce it is pure evil.

Patents are not required.

But if I knew that after spending a billion dollars anyone could just take the knowledge and sell it for them self, why would I invest the billion dollars? Also why the rant on socialism?



Piotr
User 100
August 13, 2013, 04:37:35 AM
If you don't believe it is worth it, don't invest. Doesn't change a thing as we have no cure for cancer anyway, mainly because for the big pharma it makes more money to exploit the patent system rather than invest in new research.

Socialism is a prime example of something which was arguably intended to do good, but it does evil. Same for patents.



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