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Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 06:41:43 AM
In cases of things like wheels, they are not protected under any such copy rights.

Where is the line drawn? What's the logic?



Dudecore
Boss 100
August 12, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
I am not familiar enough to know where the line is draw. It'd be unfair for me to speculate.



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 08:09:23 AM
I'm afraid that in the current patent law the line is drawn on a whim without any specific logical reason. Why one wheel is not patentable but a combination of 5 wheels is?



Vyse
User 60
August 12, 2013, 10:15:38 AM
Piotr lets say you invented something huge, like a jet pack. I heard you did it, so I sent someone to steal your ideas. They are mine now, I will profit like mad and no one will listen to you because you have no proof you made it. Do I think patents can be stupid? Sure, as mentioned companies will patent things as there's when workers made them. However it is there as a saftey net to stop theft.



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 12:05:57 PM
Piotr lets say you invented something huge, like a jet pack. I heard you did it, so I sent someone to steal your ideas. They are mine now, I will profit like mad and no one will listen to you because you have no proof you made it. Do I think patents can be stupid? Sure, as mentioned companies will patent things as there's when workers made them. However it is there as a saftey net to stop theft.

I'm not convinced at all. How did you hear about my jet pack?



EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 12:11:55 PM
Corporate espionage



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 12:21:17 PM
Corporate espionage

This is illegal under 'do not steal' and there is no need to use patent laws of any kind to solve this example. Next please.



EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 12:22:03 PM
Of course it's illegal but does that stop people from doing it? Just trying to play devils advocate here



Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 12:23:40 PM by EvACiDe
Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 12:27:44 PM
Of course it's illegal but does that stop people from doing it? Just trying to play devils advocate here

If one law didn't stop them, what makes you think the other will?



EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 12:31:02 PM
Of course it's illegal but does that stop people from doing it? Just trying to play devils advocate here

If one law didn't stop them, what makes you think the other will?

That's kind of my point. I DON'T expect either law to stop them. If someone wants to behave in a criminal manner, no amount of laws will deter them



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
Preventing me from having certain idea by putting this idea in some safe place with limited public access is an obvious infringement of my freedom to think, it is not something I want to be done to me. I believe there are many others who wouldn't want their ideas prevented in this way. Current US patent law is not compatible with iMtG Law.



EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Except it isn't preventing you from thinking. You just need a slightly modified idea or wait until the patent runs out. Although I can see what you're saying



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 02:18:59 PM
I elaborated a bit more here: ultimatelaw......patents.html



EvACiDe
User 29
August 12, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Ok, now I see a bit more clearly what you are getting at; and for me, I half agree and half don't with patent laws. There's a lot of grey areas



Piotr
User 100
August 12, 2013, 03:13:27 PM
Ok, now I see a bit more clearly what you are getting at; and for me, I half agree and half don't with patent laws. There's a lot of grey areas

Can I have an example of grey area please?



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